[Vision2020] Palin Candidacy Helps Planned Parenthood Fundraising

Thu Oct 2 21:39:51 PDT 2008

Thank you so much for referencing the NRAPVF cite.

Many Idahoans will be interested to see their current headline banner:

><http://www.nrapvf.org/news/Read.aspx?ID=11588&T=1>Obama Campaign 
>Threatens Legal Action to Take Down NRA Ads
>
>Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign has sent threatening 
>letters to news agencies in Pennsylvania and Ohio to stop airing ads 
>exposing his anti-gun record sponsored by the National Rifle 
>Association Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF). The kicker? NRA-PVF's 
>Ohio's ads have not yet begun running.
>
>"Barack Obama and his campaign are terrified of the truth," declared 
>Chris W. Cox, Chairman of NRA-PVF. "Sen. Obama's statements and 
>support for restricting access to firearms, raising taxes on guns 
>and ammunition and voting against the use of firearms for 
>self-defense in the home are a matter of public record. NRA-PVF will 
>make sure that everyone knows of Obama's abysmal record on guns and hunting."

It is rather clear that you don't understand the problem.  Can't 
really help you with that - perhaps read all the posts again.

But I didn't see any problem with the NRA fundraising efforts - 
straight forward stuff - give your name and contact information and 
give your money.  Typical 527 structure.  You get your name noted as 
a donor.  I did not see any promo encouraging me to donate in honor 
of someone else - especially someone who dislikes guns.  If they did 
encourage that I would have the same concerns as I have over the Palin issue.

As to trying to tell you what charities to support - where do you get that?

I don't give one toot who you give your money too (although you 
should seriously consider the NRA);-)) - I just ask that you give it 
without "honoring" someone who you know is opposed to the objectives 
of your charity.

Geez Louise - take a breather Saundra - you'll hurt yourself.

At 08:59 PM 10/2/2008, you wrote:
>Jeff Harkins wrote:
>"To claim a donation to Planned Parenthood was to honor Governor Sarah Palin
>is a false and malicious statement.  The intent is to malign the Vice
>Presidential Candidate Gov. Sarah Palin."
>
>Harkins' shrill nonsense was aptly answered by Joe Campbell:
>"Lastly, I don't have a problem with the fundraising campaign nor with the
>fact that donators are asked to "list the address of the McCain campaign
>headquarters or the Alaska governor's office." For crying out loud the woman
>is running for VP of the US. Citizens have the right to let her and McCain
>know how they fell about the topic."
>
>Exactly so.
>
>Especially curious to me is why people like Harkins & Crabtree are so rabid
>in their responses to those of us who are discussing Palin's anti-choice
>rhetoric when she bills herself as "unapologetically pro-life"?  An
>especially reactionary anti-choice stance, BTW, that includes opposition to
>emergency contraceptives for women, including rape and incest survivors.
>
>Once possible conclusion for their reactions to be so completely over the
>top could be that they are scared silly by those of us who are able to think
>past Palin's carefully scripted -- indeed, monotonous -- talking points.
>They hoped we'd be foolish enough to be blinded by personality rather than
>focusing on the issues, and they remain ticked that tactic didn't work  :-)
>
>OTOH, maybe Harkins is just terribly confused.  Perhaps he's confused the
>NRA's official campaign  to malign Vice Presidential Candidate Senator
>Barack Obama with the efforts of over 31,000 individual US citizens' efforts
>to put their money where their mouths are with respect to privacy,
>reproductive rights, and family planning.  I don't see how any rational
>person could make such a mistake, but who knows?  I invite readers to check
>out this site "Paid for by the NRA Political Victory Fund (www .NRAPVF.org)
>Not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee" and decide for
>yourselves if Harkins' undies-twisted outrage isn't perhaps more applicable
>to this:
>http://www.gunbanobama.com/Default.aspx?NavGuid=c3ed0bbc-26c7-462d-af87-56ed
>8857ac4c&SiteGuid=c63367a2-996a-422c-9afd-0d6f49a0ca86
>OR
>http://tinyurl.com/NRA-Anti-Obama
>
>Of course, I'll not be holding my breath for either of them to condemn the
>NRA's official fundraising tactics . . .
>
>But, I will be thanking God that it's not up to the Harkins' of the world to
>tell me what charities are worthy of my support.
>
>
>Saundra Lund
>Moscow, ID
>
>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
>nothing.
>~ Edmund Burke
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>On Behalf Of Jeff Harkins
>Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:17 AM
>To: Chasuk
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Palin Candidacy Helps Planned Parenthood
>Fundraising
>
>Chasuk,
>
>I use an older dictionary - probably because I am older.
>
>Defame - to attack or injure the reputation or honor of by false and
>malicious statements; malign, slander or libel.
>[Webster's New World, 3rd College Edition, 1988]
>
>To claim a donation to Planned Parenthood was to honor Governor Sarah
>Palin is a false and malicious statement.  The intent is to malign
>the Vice Presidential Candidate Gov. Sarah Palin.
>
>It is interesting that we agree on the vendetta against Christ
>Church, e.g., counterproductive and hypocritical.
>
>At 08:45 PM 10/1/2008, you wrote:
> >On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 19:54, Jeff Harkins <jeffh at moscow.com> wrote:
> >
> > > An obvious attack on Gov. Palin's character and her values.  Read
> > carefully,
> > > you could spare a lot of energy.
> >
> >I do read carefully, but I also know what "defame" means,  when it it
> >apparent that you don't.
> >
> >  > Tell you what - let's start a campaign, in
> >  your name, to provide donations to Christ Church.  Are you in?
> >
> >Certainly.  I would be honored.  I'm not a member of the
> >I-hate-Doug-tribe.  The beliefs and practices of Kirkers are no more
> >alarming than the beliefs or practices of numerous Roman Catholics or
> >Mormons in Moscow, so I consider the entire vendetta counterproductive
> >and hypocritical.
>
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