[Vision2020] The Persecution of Quakers: Shame On Our

Tom Hansen idahotom at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 26 10:54:35 PST 2008


Ken -
 
I got hooked on Pat Condell about a year or so back when I watched his video . . .
 
"United States of Jesus"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f01IBDoZGg
 
I agree with alot of his stuff and disagree with almost as much.  But, you've got to appreciate his willingness to express himself.
 
I have, since then, subscribed to his YouTube account.  He seems to produce a new 6- to 7-minute video once or twice a month.
 
Tom Hansen
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:34:46 -0800> From: kmmos1 at verizon.net> To: thansen at moscow.com> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Persecution of Quakers: Shame On Our> > On Wednesday 26 November 2008 08:46:31 Tom Hansen wrote:> > Much like Pat Condell who claims to be . . .> >> > "Godless and Free"> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjZ-lSn0A3M> >> > Is this what you are getting at, Ken?> > Thank you for the link. It's an indication of how little determination I have > placed into searching the Internet for agreement with my self-determined > positions that I have not heard of, or heard, Pat Condell until this morning.> > So, the answer to your question is no, that's not what I was getting at.> > After a brief McGovern flashback at the backing someone 1,000 percent comment, > I listened to the rest of the video, and then three or four others from him > with some interest. If one were to peg his natural presentation power at 10, > I would dial him back to an 8 for a couple of reasons.> > First, his presentation does not pause at any point to allow settling into > one's mind the thought before the verbal period. One might reply that the > medium's time constraints require a quickly paced presentation, to which I > would reply the medium is less important than the response of the recipient > of the message. The impression of a bum's rush to the end of a video may add > some sense of power through insistent impressiveness, but persistent > presentation without pause for a space between one sentence's period and the > next sentence's initial capital masks a greater grace of delivery Mr. Condell > likely otherwise could evince.> > Second, he seems to assume an identity between the official tenets of Islam > and all of the adherents of Islam, and that this identity is uniformly bad. > While it may well be that the majority of it is bad, it may be the case that > there are one or two features of the religion that are not totally bad, and > there may be one or two adherents of the religion who are not so totally, so > fanatically, adherent to it that they are beyond all reason. Identifying > those features and those adherents may have some salutary value.> > On the other hand, regardless of the religion with which one is concerned, > there is much truth to what Pat Condell is saying, and the straightforward > and clear manner in which he says it leaves little doubt as to his position. > For this he is to be commended.> > I expect that after the Thanksgiving weekend now upon us, I will spend some > more time watching and listening to his videos. Thanks again for the link.> > And now, time for a turkey trip.> > > Ken> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================
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