[Vision2020] The Persecution of Quakers: Shame On Our

Kenneth Marcy kmmos1 at verizon.net
Wed Nov 26 10:34:46 PST 2008


On Wednesday 26 November 2008 08:46:31 Tom Hansen wrote:
> Much like Pat Condell who claims to be . . .
>
> "Godless and Free"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjZ-lSn0A3M
>
> Is this what you are getting at, Ken?

Thank you for the link. It's an indication of how little determination I have 
placed into searching the Internet for agreement with my self-determined 
positions that I have not heard of, or heard, Pat Condell until this morning.

So, the answer to your question is no, that's not what I was getting at.

After a brief McGovern flashback at the backing someone 1,000 percent comment, 
I listened to the rest of the video, and then three or four others from him 
with some interest. If one were to peg his natural presentation power at 10, 
I would dial him back to an 8 for a couple of reasons.

First, his presentation does not pause at any point to allow settling into 
one's mind the thought before the verbal period. One might reply that the 
medium's time constraints require a quickly paced presentation, to which I 
would reply the medium is less important than the response of the recipient 
of the message. The impression of a bum's rush to the end of a video may add 
some sense of power through insistent impressiveness, but persistent 
presentation without pause for a space between one sentence's period and the 
next sentence's initial capital masks a greater grace of delivery Mr. Condell 
likely otherwise could evince.

Second, he seems to assume an identity between the official tenets of Islam 
and all of the adherents of Islam, and that this identity is uniformly bad. 
While it may well be that the majority of it is bad, it may be the case that 
there are one or two features of the religion that are not totally bad, and 
there may be one or two adherents of the religion who are not so totally, so 
fanatically, adherent to it that they are beyond all reason. Identifying 
those features and those adherents may have some salutary value.

On the other hand, regardless of the religion with which one is concerned,  
there is much truth to what Pat Condell is saying, and the straightforward 
and clear manner in which he says it leaves little doubt as to his position. 
For this he is to be commended.

I expect that after the Thanksgiving weekend now upon us, I will spend some 
more time watching and listening to his videos. Thanks again for the link.

And now, time for a turkey trip.


Ken



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