[Vision2020] Not here [was just sarcasm? no!

Thu May 15 16:51:00 PDT 2008

Tommy Boy,

  Please, you need to get a life. I cannot believe that you have this kind of time. Just think of the good you could do if you put your time and energy into something more productive like planting trees, meals on wheels, the soup kitchen, picking up trash at the park, walking a dog waiting for you at the shelter. There are so many more meaningful things to do than cut and paste every single email from the V and organize them into a tree. 

  Best Regards,

  Donovan

Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
  I have been reading "Arnold's" email headers, Paul

In fact, I have been copying and pasting these headers into a file along 
with other headers from emails posted by other posters who have come and 
gone, and are sure to return again. I have been doing this since 
Schwaller first posted to the Viz, way back when . . .

I am certain that Doudalchri Wilcourwit will (via one of his/their 
personas) accuse me of "invasion of privacy". Two words: Who cares?

I am formulating kind of a "tree" of sorts. I am trying to come up with a 
catchy phrase to title it before I post it.

Note to (you know who you are): Keep them cards and letters coming.

Stay tuned . . .

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

> Joe Campbell wrote:
> > Please read this and compare the writing style to the other posts, and 
notice 
> > the lack of contractions here. A very clumsy style here -- "There is a 
great 
> > deal of difference between someone being discriminated against because 
they 
> > are here taking a job, versus that of their race" -- versus the rather 
breezy 
> > style of the other postings.
> >
> > Again, if anyone -- other than Christovan -- thinks I'm wrong I'd like 
to here it.
> > 
> 
> I don't want to waste my mental resources (scarce as they sometimes are) 
> on psychoanalyzing Donovan's writing style, but I will point out that 
> you can get some idea who is posting from where by looking at the email 
> headers. If you have an email client that actually lets you see the 
> headers (many Microsoft clients won't let you), then you will see 
> something like this (taken from my copy of the email you are 
referencing):
> 
> >From - Wed May 14 18:02:30 2008
> X-Account-Key: account2
> X-UIDL: AFpXv9EAAIFiSCtqMwShAxFHSk8
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 10000000
> X-Mozilla-
Keys: 

> X-Apparently-To: godshatter at yahoo.com via 209.191.87.90; Wed, 14 May 
2008 15:39:47 -0700
> X-Originating-IP: [64.126.132.9]
> Authentication-Results: mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com from=moscow.com; 
domainkeys=neutral (no
sig)
> Received: from 64.126.132.9 (EHLO trumpet.fsr.net) (64.126.132.9)
> by mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:45 -0700
> Received: from trumpet.fsr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4EMcjUJ098020;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
> (envelope-from vision2020-bounces at moscow.com)
> Received: from mail-gw.fsr.net (mail-gw.fsr.net [64.126.132.22])
> by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4EMciKU097901
> for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:44 -0700 
(PDT)
> (envelope-from owner-vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net)
> Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx242.postini.com [64.18.0.162])
> by mail-gw.fsr.net (8.13.1/8.12.3) with SMTP id m4EMct1v068083
> for ;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:55 -0700 (PDT)
> (envelope-from donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com)
> Received: from source ([64.126.133.12]) (using TLSv1) by
> exprod5mx242.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; 
> Wed, 14 May 2008 18:38:50 EDT
> Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx213.postini.com [64.18.0.72])
> by mx4.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m4EMcgnB016777
> for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:43 -0700 
(PDT)
> (envelope-from donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com)
> Received: from source ([209.191.124.134]) by exprod5mx213.postini.com
> ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 17:38:49 CDT
> Received: (qmail 21370 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2008 22:38:49 -0000
> X-YMail-OSG: 
ZAPVG5kVM1lUEPrGYOzFp6EeN.G1LAvCqFayFRDftkoa41Vpy2XU9h1rhnJuLWs5JQ--
> Received: from [72.24.91.109] by web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Donovan Arnold 
> .....
> 
> 
> 
> Don't let this cryptic stuff scare you. What you want to look for is 
> the "Received:" line farthest down the list, since they go in order from 
> receiver to sender as you go down the list. In this case, you see the 
> following:
> 
> 
> Received: from [72.24.91.109] by web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
> 
> 
> 
> The IP address should be the address Donovan is posting from 
> (72.24.91.109). The "via HTTP" part means he's connecting through the 
> web to yahoo's email client. I don't know if he posts from home, from 
> work, from a friends place, from his neighbor's wifi connection, or if 
> he's even the one using that account, but that IP address resolves to:
> 
> Non-authoritative answer:
> 109.91.24.72.in-addr.arpa name = 91-109.72-24-cpe.cableone.net.
> 
> This is an IP owned by cableone.net, which appears to have connections 
> in the Lewiston area but not in Moscow (unless their web page is out of 
> date).
> 
> I've spot-checked a few messages, and so far all I've seen originate 
> from this IP address.
> 
> That address could be an endpoint of an onion routing network like tor, 
> but if that were the case I'd expect it to change frequently.
> 
> Donovan, can you confirm that you have Cable One as an internet 
> provider? Not that it's any of our business, but it might help us solve 
> this "riddle".
> 
> Paul
> 

"People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in chat-
room forums are neither brave nor clever." 

- Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,
2007)

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