[Vision2020] Not here [was just sarcasm? no!

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Thu May 15 05:44:11 PDT 2008


I have been reading "Arnold's" email headers, Paul

In fact, I have been copying and pasting these headers into a file along 
with other headers from emails posted by other posters who have come and 
gone, and are sure to return again.  I have been doing this since 
Schwaller first posted to the Viz, way back when . . .

I am certain that Doudalchri Wilcourwit will (via one of his/their 
personas) accuse me of "invasion of privacy".  Two words:  Who cares?

I am formulating kind of a "tree" of sorts.  I am trying to come up with a 
catchy phrase to title it before I post it.

Note to (you know who you are):  Keep them cards and letters coming.

Stay tuned . . .

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

> Joe Campbell wrote:
> > Please read this and compare the writing style to the other posts, and 
notice 
> > the lack of contractions here. A very clumsy style here -- "There is a 
great 
> > deal of difference between someone being discriminated against because 
they 
> > are here taking a job, versus that of their race" -- versus the rather 
breezy 
> > style of the other postings.
> >
> > Again, if anyone -- other than Christovan -- thinks I'm wrong I'd like 
to here it.
> >   
> 
> I don't want to waste my mental resources (scarce as they sometimes are) 
> on psychoanalyzing Donovan's writing style, but I will point out that 
> you can get some idea who is posting from where by looking at the email 
> headers.  If you have an email client that actually lets you see the 
> headers (many Microsoft clients won't let you), then you will see 
> something like this (taken from my copy of the email you are 
referencing):
> 
> >From - Wed May 14 18:02:30 2008
> X-Account-Key: account2
> X-UIDL: AFpXv9EAAIFiSCtqMwShAxFHSk8
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 10000000
> X-Mozilla-
Keys:                                                                      
     
     
> X-Apparently-To: godshatter at yahoo.com via 209.191.87.90; Wed, 14 May 
2008 15:39:47 -0700
> X-Originating-IP: [64.126.132.9]
> Authentication-Results: mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com  from=moscow.com; 
domainkeys=neutral (no
sig)
> Received: from 64.126.132.9  (EHLO trumpet.fsr.net) (64.126.132.9)
>   by mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:45 -0700
> Received: from trumpet.fsr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> 	by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4EMcjUJ098020;
> 	Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
> 	(envelope-from vision2020-bounces at moscow.com)
> Received: from mail-gw.fsr.net (mail-gw.fsr.net [64.126.132.22])
> 	by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4EMciKU097901
> 	for <vision2020 at lists.fsr.com>; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:44 -0700 
(PDT)
> 	(envelope-from owner-vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net)
> Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx242.postini.com [64.18.0.162])
> 	by mail-gw.fsr.net (8.13.1/8.12.3) with SMTP id m4EMct1v068083
> 	for <vision2020 at firststepinternet.com>;
> 	Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:55 -0700 (PDT)
> 	(envelope-from donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com)
> Received: from source ([64.126.133.12]) (using TLSv1) by
> 	exprod5mx242.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; 
> 	Wed, 14 May 2008 18:38:50 EDT
> Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx213.postini.com [64.18.0.72])
> 	by mx4.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m4EMcgnB016777
> 	for <vision2020 at moscow.com>; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:43 -0700 
(PDT)
> 	(envelope-from donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com)
> Received: from source ([209.191.124.134]) by exprod5mx213.postini.com
> 	([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 17:38:49 CDT
> Received: (qmail 21370 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2008 22:38:49 -0000
> X-YMail-OSG: 
ZAPVG5kVM1lUEPrGYOzFp6EeN.G1LAvCqFayFRDftkoa41Vpy2XU9h1rhnJuLWs5JQ--
> Received: from [72.24.91.109] by web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
> 	Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> .....
> 
> 
> 
> Don't let this cryptic stuff scare you.  What you want to look for is 
> the "Received:" line farthest down the list, since they go in order from 
> receiver to sender as you go down the list.  In this case, you see the 
> following:
> 
> 
> Received: from [72.24.91.109] by web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
> 	Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
> 
> 
> 
> The IP address should be the address Donovan is posting from 
> (72.24.91.109).  The "via HTTP" part means he's connecting through the 
> web to yahoo's email client.  I don't know if he posts from home, from 
> work, from a friends place, from his neighbor's wifi connection, or if 
> he's even the one using that account, but that IP address resolves to:
> 
> Non-authoritative answer:
> 109.91.24.72.in-addr.arpa    name = 91-109.72-24-cpe.cableone.net.
> 
> This is an IP owned by cableone.net, which appears to have connections 
> in the Lewiston area but not in Moscow (unless their web page is out of 
> date).
> 
> I've spot-checked a few messages, and so far all I've seen originate 
> from this IP address.
> 
> That address could be an endpoint of an onion routing network like tor, 
> but if that were the case I'd expect it to change frequently.
> 
> Donovan, can you confirm that you have Cable One as an internet 
> provider?  Not that it's any of our business, but it might help us solve 
> this "riddle".
> 
> Paul
> 


"People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in chat-
room forums are neither brave nor clever." 

- Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,
2007)

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