[Vision2020] Not here [was just sarcasm? no!
Tom Hansen
thansen at moscow.com
Thu May 15 05:44:11 PDT 2008
I have been reading "Arnold's" email headers, Paul
In fact, I have been copying and pasting these headers into a file along
with other headers from emails posted by other posters who have come and
gone, and are sure to return again. I have been doing this since
Schwaller first posted to the Viz, way back when . . .
I am certain that Doudalchri Wilcourwit will (via one of his/their
personas) accuse me of "invasion of privacy". Two words: Who cares?
I am formulating kind of a "tree" of sorts. I am trying to come up with a
catchy phrase to title it before I post it.
Note to (you know who you are): Keep them cards and letters coming.
Stay tuned . . .
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
> Joe Campbell wrote:
> > Please read this and compare the writing style to the other posts, and
notice
> > the lack of contractions here. A very clumsy style here -- "There is a
great
> > deal of difference between someone being discriminated against because
they
> > are here taking a job, versus that of their race" -- versus the rather
breezy
> > style of the other postings.
> >
> > Again, if anyone -- other than Christovan -- thinks I'm wrong I'd like
to here it.
> >
>
> I don't want to waste my mental resources (scarce as they sometimes are)
> on psychoanalyzing Donovan's writing style, but I will point out that
> you can get some idea who is posting from where by looking at the email
> headers. If you have an email client that actually lets you see the
> headers (many Microsoft clients won't let you), then you will see
> something like this (taken from my copy of the email you are
referencing):
>
> >From - Wed May 14 18:02:30 2008
> X-Account-Key: account2
> X-UIDL: AFpXv9EAAIFiSCtqMwShAxFHSk8
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0011
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 10000000
> X-Mozilla-
Keys:
> X-Apparently-To: godshatter at yahoo.com via 209.191.87.90; Wed, 14 May
2008 15:39:47 -0700
> X-Originating-IP: [64.126.132.9]
> Authentication-Results: mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com from=moscow.com;
domainkeys=neutral (no
sig)
> Received: from 64.126.132.9 (EHLO trumpet.fsr.net) (64.126.132.9)
> by mta352.mail.re4.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:39:45 -0700
> Received: from trumpet.fsr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4EMcjUJ098020;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:45 -0700 (PDT)
> (envelope-from vision2020-bounces at moscow.com)
> Received: from mail-gw.fsr.net (mail-gw.fsr.net [64.126.132.22])
> by trumpet.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m4EMciKU097901
> for <vision2020 at lists.fsr.com>; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:44 -0700
(PDT)
> (envelope-from owner-vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net)
> Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx242.postini.com [64.18.0.162])
> by mail-gw.fsr.net (8.13.1/8.12.3) with SMTP id m4EMct1v068083
> for <vision2020 at firststepinternet.com>;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:55 -0700 (PDT)
> (envelope-from donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com)
> Received: from source ([64.126.133.12]) (using TLSv1) by
> exprod5mx242.postini.com ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 18:38:50 EDT
> Received: from psmtp.com (exprod5mx213.postini.com [64.18.0.72])
> by mx4.fsr.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id m4EMcgnB016777
> for <vision2020 at moscow.com>; Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:43 -0700
(PDT)
> (envelope-from donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com)
> Received: from source ([209.191.124.134]) by exprod5mx213.postini.com
> ([64.18.4.10]) with SMTP; Wed, 14 May 2008 17:38:49 CDT
> Received: (qmail 21370 invoked by uid 60001); 14 May 2008 22:38:49 -0000
> X-YMail-OSG:
ZAPVG5kVM1lUEPrGYOzFp6EeN.G1LAvCqFayFRDftkoa41Vpy2XU9h1rhnJuLWs5JQ--
> Received: from [72.24.91.109] by web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
> Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> .....
>
>
>
> Don't let this cryptic stuff scare you. What you want to look for is
> the "Received:" line farthest down the list, since they go in order from
> receiver to sender as you go down the list. In this case, you see the
> following:
>
>
> Received: from [72.24.91.109] by web38107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP;
> Wed, 14 May 2008 15:38:49 PDT
>
>
>
> The IP address should be the address Donovan is posting from
> (72.24.91.109). The "via HTTP" part means he's connecting through the
> web to yahoo's email client. I don't know if he posts from home, from
> work, from a friends place, from his neighbor's wifi connection, or if
> he's even the one using that account, but that IP address resolves to:
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> 109.91.24.72.in-addr.arpa name = 91-109.72-24-cpe.cableone.net.
>
> This is an IP owned by cableone.net, which appears to have connections
> in the Lewiston area but not in Moscow (unless their web page is out of
> date).
>
> I've spot-checked a few messages, and so far all I've seen originate
> from this IP address.
>
> That address could be an endpoint of an onion routing network like tor,
> but if that were the case I'd expect it to change frequently.
>
> Donovan, can you confirm that you have Cable One as an internet
> provider? Not that it's any of our business, but it might help us solve
> this "riddle".
>
> Paul
>
"People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in chat-
room forums are neither brave nor clever."
- Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,
2007)
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