[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: snow

[Sue Hovey]

OK  I'll just get some pumpkin ale, steal the invisibility cloak and find a 
comfy spot in Snape's classroom.

And I don't really care what the cause, I hate this damn weather.

Sue H
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
To: "Bev Bafus" <bevbafus at verizon.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: snow


>I never thought about it being dementors.  Everybody practice their
> patronuses.  Remember, think of something happy!
>
> Paul
>
> Bev Bafus wrote:
>> Oh.  I thought it was just dementors.
>>
>> (re Harry Potter)
>>
>> Bev
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:16 PM
>> To: keely emerinemix
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: snow
>>
>>
>> Not that I fall into the group you're discussing (nor would they
>> probably want to count me as a member), but I was going post an article
>> on the recent lack of sunspot activity and what that might mean for
>> global climate anyway, so why not now?
>>
>> http://www.montana.edu/cpa/news/nwview.php?article=5982
>>
>> The Sun goes through an apparent 11-year sunspot cycle, and is now in a
>> lull between cycles when there is little sunspot activity.  The odd
>> thing, though, is that this latest sunspot cycle doesn't seem to be
>> progressing as it should.  We're in a two-year hiatus, with no idea how
>> long it will be until the cycle starts again.
>>
>> The reason this may affect the global climate has to do with the amount
>> of radiation hitting the Earth.  When there are more sunspots, there is
>> more radiation output and the Sun heats us more than when it is
>> quiescent and there is little sunspot activity.  The "Maunder Minimum",
>> which I've posted about before, was a period of around 50-years in the
>> 1600's where there were few sunspots, which correlates with a period of
>> relative cold dubbed the "Little Ice Age".  As always, Wikipedia is your
>> friend:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
>>
>> Just to ward off some pending comments, I'm not claiming that global
>> warming isn't happening, I'm not claiming that there isn't an
>> anthropogenic component, I'm not proposing that we do nothing or that we
>> go burn some oil for heat, I'm not saying the world isn't on the brink
>> of collapse politically, economically, spiritually, or culturally, your
>> mileage may vary, opening the case voids your warranty, batteries not
>> included.
>>
>> What I will propose for thoughtful contemplation is this: the Earth is
>> in orbit around a mass of fusing hydrogen that is 109 times the diameter
>> of the Earth, and which dominates the Earth energy-wise.  The Earth is
>> mostly balanced energy-wise, meaning that small perturbations in the
>> radiation output of this gigantic ball of energy can be enough to have
>> catastrophic effects.  The effects we are talking about with respect to
>> global warming are small ones.  We're not talking about "snowball
>> Earths", the atmosphere burning, or the seas boiling.  We're talking
>> about a few degrees over a few decades in relative temperature change.
>>
>> Maybe this lack of activity will in some way miraculously help us
>> overcome the effects of our SUVs and our consumer-driven (and
>> profit-driven) culture.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> I know the world looks to our little berg for all it's global climate
>> change news; might as well do my bit for the greater good ("the greater
>> good").
>>
>>
>> keely emerinemix wrote:
>>
>>> I can't wait 'til our Blogmeister friends announce gleefully that this
>>> is proof -- PROOF,  I say -- that "global warming" is just a big scam
>>> wrought by sniveling, fear-mongering liberals.
>>>
>>> Moscow -- the bellweather for all weather and the standard of global
>>> climate science since the beginning of the Scientific Age.
>>>
>>> Keely
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>> --
>>
>>>     From: whayman at roadrunner.com
>>>     To: the_ivies3 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>     Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:16:49 -0700
>>>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] snow
>>>
>>>     Good one! And a happy Solstice, too!
>>>
>>>     Warren Hayman
>>>
>>>
>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>         *From:* Tom Ivie <mailto:the_ivies3 at yahoo.com>
>>>         *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:47 AM
>>>         *Subject:* [Vision2020] snow
>>>
>>>         Merry Christmas!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>         Tom & Liz Ivie
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