[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: snow

[Paul Rumelhart]

I never thought about it being dementors.  Everybody practice their 
patronuses.  Remember, think of something happy!

Paul

Bev Bafus wrote:
> Oh.  I thought it was just dementors.
>
> (re Harry Potter)
>
> Bev
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:16 PM
> To: keely emerinemix
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: snow
>
>
> Not that I fall into the group you're discussing (nor would they
> probably want to count me as a member), but I was going post an article
> on the recent lack of sunspot activity and what that might mean for
> global climate anyway, so why not now?
>
> http://www.montana.edu/cpa/news/nwview.php?article=5982
>
> The Sun goes through an apparent 11-year sunspot cycle, and is now in a
> lull between cycles when there is little sunspot activity.  The odd
> thing, though, is that this latest sunspot cycle doesn't seem to be
> progressing as it should.  We're in a two-year hiatus, with no idea how
> long it will be until the cycle starts again.
>
> The reason this may affect the global climate has to do with the amount
> of radiation hitting the Earth.  When there are more sunspots, there is
> more radiation output and the Sun heats us more than when it is
> quiescent and there is little sunspot activity.  The "Maunder Minimum",
> which I've posted about before, was a period of around 50-years in the
> 1600's where there were few sunspots, which correlates with a period of
> relative cold dubbed the "Little Ice Age".  As always, Wikipedia is your
> friend:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_minimum
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
>
> Just to ward off some pending comments, I'm not claiming that global
> warming isn't happening, I'm not claiming that there isn't an
> anthropogenic component, I'm not proposing that we do nothing or that we
> go burn some oil for heat, I'm not saying the world isn't on the brink
> of collapse politically, economically, spiritually, or culturally, your
> mileage may vary, opening the case voids your warranty, batteries not
> included.
>
> What I will propose for thoughtful contemplation is this: the Earth is
> in orbit around a mass of fusing hydrogen that is 109 times the diameter
> of the Earth, and which dominates the Earth energy-wise.  The Earth is
> mostly balanced energy-wise, meaning that small perturbations in the
> radiation output of this gigantic ball of energy can be enough to have
> catastrophic effects.  The effects we are talking about with respect to
> global warming are small ones.  We're not talking about "snowball
> Earths", the atmosphere burning, or the seas boiling.  We're talking
> about a few degrees over a few decades in relative temperature change.
>
> Maybe this lack of activity will in some way miraculously help us
> overcome the effects of our SUVs and our consumer-driven (and
> profit-driven) culture.
>
> Paul
>
> I know the world looks to our little berg for all it's global climate
> change news; might as well do my bit for the greater good ("the greater
> good").
>
>
> keely emerinemix wrote:
>   
>> I can't wait 'til our Blogmeister friends announce gleefully that this
>> is proof -- PROOF,  I say -- that "global warming" is just a big scam
>> wrought by sniveling, fear-mongering liberals.
>>
>> Moscow -- the bellweather for all weather and the standard of global
>> climate science since the beginning of the Scientific Age.
>>
>> Keely
>>
>>
>>
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>>     From: whayman at roadrunner.com
>>     To: the_ivies3 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>>     Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:16:49 -0700
>>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] snow
>>
>>     Good one! And a happy Solstice, too!
>>
>>     Warren Hayman
>>
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         *From:* Tom Ivie <mailto:the_ivies3 at yahoo.com>
>>         *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:47 AM
>>         *Subject:* [Vision2020] snow
>>
>>         Merry Christmas!!!
>>
>>
>>         Tom & Liz Ivie
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