[Vision2020] Economist Rankings of the World's Greatest

[Donovan Arnold]

Janesta,
   
  I have worked with people with disabilities that had to visit the food banks. All kinds of food is offered. And not always just food, but also other needed items, and even clothes sometimes. Most of the food is usually non-perishable so it keeps. 
   
  There are usually limits on how much a person can take at one food bank. As people's needs vary, and so does the food bank's allowance on how much a person can take. Usually, someone who cannot survive on one food bank's offerings, will go to another one. 
   
  Food banks don't limit to be jerks, it is just that they only have some much food to go around. 
   
  Best Regards,
   
  Donovan

Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:
  I'm curious. How many of you have been on food stamps, or, used the food bank? Do you know what kind of food is offered, and how much at the food bank? I deliver produce for Backyard Harvest. Two bags of food to last a month, for one person. In those two bags, is about enough food for a week, week and a half, maximum. What then?


Thanks,
Janesta

  On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
    Food Banks Vs. Quest Cards
   
  Food Banks win hands down for three major reasons.
   
  1) Fraud. People that don't claim income get food stamps. 
   
  2) Cost:  It costs more to create an entire bureau of the government to establish regulations, enforce them, and distribute funds and cards which a food bank does not have.
   
  3) Access. There are a large number of people that gross more than $940 a month but still need assistance in purchasing food and other needed items. Expecting people to survive, especially those with a disability or the elderly that need medical assistance, on $940 a month is joke, if not criminal. People that are making above $940 a month can get food from a food bank without the hassle, humiliation, and frustration. 
   
  I would cut the food stamp program by about 2/3, and give the money to private organizations with a solid record of providing services to the poor and those in need. 
   
  Best Regards,
   
  Donovan

"Kai Eiselein, Editor" <editor at lataheagle.com> wrote:
  I don't know about today, with the "Quest cards" and all, but there used to 
be a thriving black market for paper food stamps.
Recipients would simply sell their stamps for about half of the face value, 
allowing them to purchase booze, drugs smokes... whatever their vice was.
Government programs cannot and will not ever be as efficient as private 
programs for the simple fact that the government has no motivation to do 
anything efficiently, after all it can just keep sucking money from the 
average working American.


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From: "Dave" 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:50 AM
To: "vision2020" 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Economist Rankings of the World's Greatest

> How about food stamps?
>
> Dave
>
>
> g. crabtree wrote:
>> Spoken like a man who can't come up with a coherent answer for a rather
>> straight forward question.
>>
>> "Just what mechanism for assistance do you envision that an "affluent and
>> technologically advanced" nation might come up with that would be less
>> shameful?"
>>
>> Perhaps you simply were confused by my presentation. I'll try again.
>>
>> Privately operated food banks efficiently provide a needed service. How 
>> do
>> you think it could be done better?
>>
>> g
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>
> -- 
> Windows, OSX, or Linux is the same choice as:
> McDonalds, Burger King, or a (real) Co-Op.
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