[Vision2020] Some thoughts on terrorists and torture.

[Tom Hansen]

>From paragraph 1-32, HUMINT [Human Intelligence] Collection Limitations, of Army Field Manual 2-22.3 (attached), Human Intelligence Collector Operations, the standard approved by both the US House of Representatives and the US Senate to be applied at GITMO:
 
"Legal obligations. Applicable law and policy govern HUMINT collection operations. Applicable law and policy include US law; the law of war; relevant international law; relevant directives including DOD Directive 3115.09, "DOD Intelligence Interrogations, Detainee Debriefings, and Tactical Questioning"; DOD Directive 2310.1E, "The Department of Defense Detainee Program"; DOD instructions; and military execute orders including FRAGOs. HUMINT operations may be further restricted by Status of Forces Agreements (SOFAs) and other agreements, execute orders and ROE, local laws, and an operational umbrella concept. Such documents, however, cannot permit interrogation actions that are illegal under applicable law."
 
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
 



> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:04:29 -0700> From: lfalen at turbonet.com> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: [Vision2020] Some thoughts on terrorists and torture.> > Nick > This is in response to your last two posts on GITMO. I am opposed to torture. The problem is in what constitutes torture.> > Pulling out fingernails, hung up by the arms, and breaking bones are clearly torture. When I was is the Army there was a war game exercise in which dogs from the US Army Dog Training Center were used for interrogation. One First Lt. broke and was washed out of the program. I do not believe this constitutes torture. If the dog is turned loose on the captor, then of course it would be. I am not sure what all water boarding consists of. If it is nothing more than repeated dunking, I am not sure that it is. I would defer to John McCain on this.> I have no doubt that some of the people held as terrorist are innocent. Paying a large bounty to turn people in is not a good policy and I agree would lead to innocent people being turned is for the mony. There needs to be some sort of secondary verification. As to news reports on the stories of detainees being tortured and their religion being insulted; I would take this with a grain of salt. I have read a lot of reports tha indicate the reverse. The reports say that the detainees are treated with kid gloves. The detainees are allowed to worship as the desire. If any of the guards show any disrespect for their religion it is the guards that are brought up on charges. The same goes for anything approaching torture. There were of course a few detainees related to 9/11 that were interrogated heavily. whether any of it constitutes torture is debateable.> In any case there has been no further 9/11's> Roger> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================
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