[Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff

[g. crabtree]

It seems to me that your notion of the Gospel with regard to illegal aliens is flawed. Do you believe that should a thief break into your home it's your obligation to give him a hot meal and pay to have the hand he cut breaking your window stitched up? Maybe some dental care for him and his family while he's there? Heck as long as he's sitting on your sofa why not arrange for a little in state tuition at the local diploma mill and offer to pay expenses not covered by grants. By my reckoning it's not Christian charity if my compassion is forcibly extracted at the point of a gun, be it in the form of increased taxes by the government or an actual felon with a firearm. Charity should be an individual thing from the heart. Also, I'm no biblical scholar but I'm fairly sure that the Bible does not preclude a sovereign country having secure borders.

g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: keely emerinemix 
  To: J Ford ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 7:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff


  My point wasn't that doctrine has a place in a presidential campaign, but that I thought it was sad that so many conservative evangelical Christians find confirmation and comfort in their faith by being pissed off at undocumented immigrants.  

  Keely






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    From: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
    To: vision2020 at moscow.com
    Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:03:14 -0800
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff

    I have to ask - why would any of the Gospel be part of a candidate's priority?  I mean, if we get in a fundamentalist such as Doug - that just sets me teeth on edge.  

    No matter what candidate wins in the end, it should be the benefit of the entire country, no matter a person's income, that is priority.  We should be concentrating on getting our country up and running again, getting OUR kids fed, OUR people's medical needs met, OUR country's goods sold, etc.  The more money and efforts we expend on the rest of the world just seems to be going down the drain and the only return we are seeing is OUR people constantly being targeted for killing, maiming, destruction of all sorts and measures.  

    Our country must get back to protecting what's ours and then we can offer help to those in other parts of the world with what's left.

    Sorry for the hard-nose approach, but really, after fighting and seeing my friends die for OUR country only to see the Administration/Powers-that-be give it all way, is getting old and needs to stop if we are to survive this century in one piece.  

    J :]




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      From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
      To: vision2020 at moscow.com
      Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:04:45 -0800
      Subject: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff

      CNN projects Mike Huckabee as the GOP caucus winner in Iowa, followed by Romney, then Thompson.  On the Democratic side, Edwards, Obama and Clinton are fairly evenly matched and only Bill Richardson has made any statistically notable waves among the second-tier candidates.

      I've been for Edwards since he announced, and while I would be  happy with any of the Democrats (except for Kucinich and Gravel), I would be ecstatic if we had an Edwards/Obama or Edwards/Richardson, or an Obama/???, ticket in 2008.  And two great things happen on January 20, 2009 -- my son turns 20 (he was born on the final day of the Reagan administration) and the days of the Bush presidency are no more.  

      On a final note, I'm dismayed that several commentators have noted that the GOP voters who identify as evangelicals consider illegal immigration their top issue.  It would be wonderful if their top concern was justice and opportunity for the poor, but I'm guessing that the gospel of Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, Laura Ingraham and Pat Buchanan has trumped the Gospel of that other guy . . . 

      Keely




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