[Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 3 19:48:14 PST 2008


Ah - got it...thanks for the clarification.

The rest of my "rant" stands, however.

J  :]


From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:06:35 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff








My point wasn't that doctrine has a place in a presidential campaign, but that I thought it was sad that so many conservative evangelical Christians find confirmation and comfort in their faith by being pissed off at undocumented immigrants.  

Keely




From: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:03:14 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff








I have to ask - why would any of the Gospel be part of a candidate's priority?  I mean, if we get in a fundamentalist such as Doug - that just sets me teeth on edge.  

No matter what candidate wins in the end, it should be the benefit of the entire country, no matter a person's income, that is priority.  We should be concentrating on getting our country up and running again, getting OUR kids fed, OUR people's medical needs met, OUR country's goods sold, etc.  The more money and efforts we expend on the rest of the world just seems to be going down the drain and the only return we are seeing is OUR people constantly being targeted for killing, maiming, destruction of all sorts and measures.  

Our country must get back to protecting what's ours and then we can offer help to those in other parts of the world with what's left.

Sorry for the hard-nose approach, but really, after fighting and seeing my friends die for OUR country only to see the Administration/Powers-that-be give it all way, is getting old and needs to stop if we are to survive this century in one piece.  

J  :]


From: kjajmix1 at msn.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:04:45 -0800
Subject: [Vision2020] Iowa caucus stuff








CNN projects Mike Huckabee as the GOP caucus winner in Iowa, followed by Romney, then Thompson.  On the Democratic side, Edwards, Obama and Clinton are fairly evenly matched and only Bill Richardson has made any statistically notable waves among the second-tier candidates.

I've been for Edwards since he announced, and while I would be  happy with any of the Democrats (except for Kucinich and Gravel), I would be ecstatic if we had an Edwards/Obama or Edwards/Richardson, or an Obama/???, ticket in 2008.  And two great things happen on January 20, 2009 -- my son turns 20 (he was born on the final day of the Reagan administration) and the days of the Bush presidency are no more.  

On a final note, I'm dismayed that several commentators have noted that the GOP voters who identify as evangelicals consider illegal immigration their top issue.  It would be wonderful if their top concern was justice and opportunity for the poor, but I'm guessing that the gospel of Glenn Beck, Lou Dobbs, Laura Ingraham and Pat Buchanan has trumped the Gospel of that other guy . . . 

Keely



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