[Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
keely emerinemix
kjajmix1 at msn.com
Tue Feb 26 18:56:16 PST 2008
I'm curious about your previous assertion that FDR was one of the worst presidents ever. Can you tell me why?
I think he was one of the best. I'm not being snide.
I maintain Reagan was one of the worst. Again, not being snide.
I think Jimmy Carter was one of the most decent men to ever be president, and proof positive that decent men are often really bad presidents. With no trace of snideness -- I'm entirely sincere in this -- I think George W. Bush is neither decent nor a good president. With acknowledged sarcasm, I suppose the nicest thing I could say about him is that he would be a good next-door neighbor if I needed a lot of brush cut around my property.
Your turn.
Keely
> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: sbasoa at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:20:30 -0800
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
>
> Nothing could be farther from the truth. We have had some very good
> presidents. J.F. Kennedy, D.D. Eisenhower, H.S. Truman, C. Coolidge, and A.
> Lincoln for instance. We have also had some truly great presidents as well.
> G. Washington, (the best ever bar none) T. Jefferson, J. Madison, and, of
> course, R. W. Reagan.
>
> Perhaps you would be more comfortable with a monarchy?
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Basoa" <sbasoa at moscow.com>
> Cc: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
>
>
> > Yeah, and add those 43 other presidents as well...
> >
> >
> > On Feb 26, 2008, at 12:38 PM, g. crabtree wrote:
> >
> > Roger, You left LBJ off of your worst presidents list. An inadvertent
> > oversight I'm sure. I think that there is also a strong case to be
> > made for
> > Woodrow Wilson and, despite popular sentiment, FDR.
> >
> > g
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:30 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> >
> >
> >> Gary is right on Obama. Keely is wrong on Bush. Bush is far from
> >> the best
> >> president we have had, but he is far from the worst. The bottom tier
> >> consists of Buchcanan, Pierce, Harding, and Carter. This is the
> >> consensus
> >> of most historians. The rankings change with time, but most agree
> >> these
> >> are the worst. W. H. Harrisson and Garfield weren'y president long
> >> enough
> >> to be evaluated.
> >> Paul's idea on elections has some merit and it would save the
> >> expenses of
> >> a runoff election.
> >> Roger
> >>
> >> -----Original message-----
> >> From: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
> >> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:24:43 -0800
> >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> >>
> >>> With pleasure:
> >>>
> >>> Estimated 800 Billion in new government spending for starters.
> >>>
> >>> Massive tax hikes to pay for above. (a 39.6 percent personal
> >>> income tax,
> >>> a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent
> >>> capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent
> >>> death
> >>> tax, again just for starters. High likelihood of even higher rates
> >>> for
> >>> capital gains and death tax)
> >>>
> >>> Enormous increases in government bureaucracy. (health care,
> >>> mortgages,
> >>> education, etc.)
> >>>
> >>> Weakened military. (zero military or foreign affairs expertise)
> >>>
> >>> Additional intrusion by the government into the most minute
> >>> aspects of
> >>> our daily lives.
> >>>
> >>> Large increase in illegal immigration. (favors drivers licenses for
> >>> illegals, weak on border enforcement)
> >>>
> >>> Disintegration of second amendment rights.
> >>>
> >>> Erosion of first amendment rights. (fairness doctrine, additional
> >>> campaign finance reform)
> >>>
> >>> Will drive more U.S. corporations overseas. (major increases in
> >>> tax rate
> >>> and regulation)
> >>>
> >>> This is just the tip of the iceberg, I could go on. Pretty much
> >>> all the
> >>> things that make you all warm and tingly down below are the things
> >>> that
> >>> make me pretty much sick to my stomach.
> >>>
> >>> Would I be correct in assuming that your second paragraph with the
> >>> multiple snide remarks about GW was included as an example of the
> >>> sorts
> >>> of things I should avoid to merit the "extra credit" you spoke of
> >>> in the
> >>> first paragraph?
> >>>
> >>> g
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: keely emerinemix
> >>> To: g. crabtree ; Chasuk ; Vision2020
> >>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:32 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Please describe, Gary, why an Obama presidency would be a "horror
> >>> show." Extra credit if you can do it without being snide.
> >>>
> >>> Even if not measured against the current occupant we have in the
> >>> Oval
> >>> Office, Barack Obama would represent an enormous improvement in
> >>> brainpower, heart, and backbone, one for which I'll enthusiastically
> >>> campaign. Of course the next president will be compared to Bush,
> >>> which
> >>> will have the effect of further consigning Bush to the bottom of
> >>> the heap
> >>> of history's losers.
> >>>
> >>> Keely
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> >>>> To: chasuk at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:46:26 -0800
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> >>>>
> >>>> Run Ralph, Run! America needs you. (to help save us from the horror
> >>> show
> >>>> that would be Obama)
> >>>>
> >>>> g
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
> >>>> To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:01 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Narcissist Nader May Run Attention
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ralph Nader could be poised for another third party presidential
> >>> campaign.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The consumer advocate will appear on NBC's "Meet the Press" on
> >>> Sunday.
> >>>>> Nader launched his 2004 presidential run on the show.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A spokesman for Nader did not immediately return a call seeking
> >>> comment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kevin Zeese, who was Nader's spokesman during the 2004 presidential
> >>>>> race, but is no longer working for him, said Friday that Nader has
> >>>>> been actively talking to "lots of people on all sorts of levels"
> >>> about
> >>>>> the possibility of making another run.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Zeese said he could only guess what Nader might do, but added:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Obviously, I don't think ("Meet the Press" host) Tim Russert would
> >>>>> have him on for no reason."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Last month, Nader began an exploratory presidential campaign and
> >>>>> launched a Web site that promises to fight "corporate greed,
> >>> corporate
> >>>>> power, corporate control."
> >>>>>
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