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[Jeff Harkins]

Again, it appears that we just can't come together on definitions.

There is absolutely competition between the two communities - has 
been, is now and always will be.

If you don't see that, there is not reason to belabor a 
dialogue.  Whitman County is planning to have a retail mall located 
adjacent to our mall.  They are developing the corridor for just that 
purpose. That will be a competitive activity to our retail mall 
located on our side of the border.

But don't be too concerned - at the end of the day, the consumers on 
both sides of the border will be the ultimate winners - there will be 
economic pressure to force the marginal revenue element to be equal 
to the marginal cost element - that is a good thing.

Don't forget, we had a chance to expand our retail element and chose not to.

And some of the underlying infrastructure cost will be shared by both 
sides.  Fortunately, our city council has positioned Moscow to obtain 
revenues from water sales that can add substantially to our ability 
to expand our water distribution issues.

At 09:54 AM 2/14/2008, you wrote:
>"Semantics" is not the issue.  Sports competition, reputation, etc. 
>is NOT the same thing as what is going on here.
>
>Was the City of Moscow and the State of Idaho competing for the 
>right to build the mall on our side of the border, with the City of 
>Pullman and/or the State of Washington?  THAT is what I am asking.
>
>The talks or NEGOTIATIONS were not a competition with Whitman 
>County, et al, but just that - NEGOTIATIONS for the use/abuse of our 
>water/sewer; so the need to have a signed confidentiality contract 
>between the Council members and Hawkins is baffling, to say the least.
>
>J :]
>
>
>
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>Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:37:04 -0800
>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>From: jeffh at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>
>Well, convincing you of a semantics argument is not a task for me.
>
>But frankly, our communities have been in some form of competition 
>since founding Moscow and Pullman - athletic, school reputation and 
>commercial.  And of course, the competition really fired up when the 
>Palouse Mall was built - right on the border.
>
>Oh - also recall that Moscow was suing Whitman County over their 
>"DEVELOPMENT" plans.  The suit has been dropped.
>
>At 07:13 AM 2/14/2008, you wrote:
>Yes, but WERE we in competition?  Sounds like, to me, the only thing 
>negotiated was the water/sewer use and nothing else.  Don't see how 
>that is competition with Washington especially if they weren't even 
>involved in the talks.
>
>Clarification would be nice.
>
>J :]
>
>
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>Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:13:09 -0800
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>From: jeffh at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] (no subject)
>
>To those interested, it would appear that items e and f of the state 
>statute for executive sessions would be applicable.
>
>
>(e)  To consider preliminary negotiations involving matters of
>trade or commerce in which the governing body is in competition with
>governing bodies in other states or nations;
>(f)  To communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to
>discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending
>litigation, or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently 
>likely to be
>litigated. The mere presence of legal counsel at an executive
>session does not satisfy this requirement;
>
>
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