[Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow

[Tom Hansen]

A location map for the Hawkins Mall
 
http://www.moscowcares.com/Washington_Water_Permit_020408.htm
 
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho



> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:35:53 -0800> From: kcraine at verizon.net> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow> > This is my concern: the agreement allows Hawkins to hook into > Moscow's water and sewer systems as if they are within the city > limits. However, other out-of-limits developments are not granted the > same privilege. If a mall or subdivision wants city services, it must > be annexed so that it pays the same taxes to the city as every other > development. Based on the agreement, Hawkins will not pay any propery > taxes nor use fees beyond what in-city developments such as the > Palouse Empire Mall pay.> > My question is: what happens when the City is required by federal or > state law to upgrade our sewer or water systems (or are assessed > fines as we those we recently shelled out for failure to meet federal > standards). Will Hawkins have to contribute their fair share to those > expensive endeavors or do we, the citizens of Moscow, have to > subsidize their commercial use?> > Kit Craine> > On Feb 6, 2008, at 5:38 PM, g. crabtree wrote:> > > I'm not sure what all the whining is about. What is the benefit of > > the City> > of Moscow forking out thousands of dollars to fight a losing battle > > with> > Hawkins only to have them acquire a water right that gives Moscow > > absolutely> > no control or potential revenue? Without the signing of this agreement> > Hawkins would have been able to drill a well and draw that water > > out of the> > same aquifer we get ours out of without the City having any say. > > This way,> > we have some control since we are the provider. Not only that, we > > should be> > able to charge them for services at a price significantly higher > > than what a> > Moscow business would be paying. The silly assertion that "we Moscow> > taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County" is without merit. > > Whitman> > county will be financing the infrastructure improvements with 9.1 > > million> > dollars worth of bonds and fire protection will come via a new > > rural fire> > station provided by Hawkins. Instead of grumbling about recalls I > > think we> > should be saying thanks guys, job well done!> >> > g> >> > ----- Original Message -----> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>> > To: <london at moscow.com>; <rhayes at turbonet.com>; > > <vision2020 at moscow.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:18 PM> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow> >> >> >> Visionaires -> >>> >> Crank up your speakers and watch/listen to Wayne Krauss . . .> >>> >> "Behind Closed Doors"> >>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI> >>> >> Tom Hansen> >> Moscow, Idaho> >>> R-> >>> I agree with your concern and your indignation.> >>> I thought these GMA council candidates were supposed to bring > >>> "common> >> sense"> >>> to Moscow.> >>> Now we Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County.> >>> Disgusting> >>> BL> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----> >>> From: "roger hayes" <rhayes at turbonet.com>> >>> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:25 AM> >>> Subject: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Moscow taxpayers and business owners,> >>>>> >>>> It appears the city of Moscow will provide water, sewer, and most> >>>> likely police and fire services to the proposed Hawkins development> >>>> which is slated to be built just across the border in > >>>> Washington. Who> >>>> will benefit by this? Hawkins, regional developers and Whitman > >>>> county.> >>>> The losers will be Moscow businesses and Moscow taxpayers.> >>>> If this plan comes to fruition, we will be exporting our tax > >>>> dollars to> >>>> Whitman county, shipping the profits of local business to another> >>>> state, while reducing Moscow's tax base, AND increasing the > >>>> demand on> >>>> our city's infrastructure. How much money will Hawkins agree to pay> >>>> Moscow to mitigate the destructive consequences this megamall > >>>> will have> >>>> on our city?> >>>> With the exception of Tom Lamar, the city council voted against the> >>>> best interests of our city and its citizens. Walter Steed said > >>>> he could> >>>> not comment on the negotiations because they were held in > >>>> "secret." Why> >>>> the secrecy? Steed also said "this will not make some people > >>>> happy."> >>>> Well, when you make a deal which is destructive to the people who> >>>> elected you, it is bound to make them unhappy.> >>>> We need to consider a RECALL!> >>>>> >>>> Roger Hayes> >>>> Moscow!> >>>>> >>>> =======================================================> >>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,> >>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >>>> http://www.fsr.net> >>>> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >>>> =======================================================> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> =======================================================> >>> List services made available by First Step Internet,> >>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >>> http://www.fsr.net> >>> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >>> =======================================================> >>>> >>> >>> >> "People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in> >> chat-> >> room forums are neither brave nor clever."> >>> >> - Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,> >> 2007)> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------> >> This message was sent by First Step Internet.> >> http://www.fsr.com/> >>> >>> >> =======================================================> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> >> http://www.fsr.net> >> mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> >> =======================================================> >>> >> >> > =======================================================> > List services made available by First Step Internet,> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.> > http://www.fsr.net> > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> > =======================================================> > =======================================================> List services made available by First Step Internet, > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. > http://www.fsr.net > mailto:Vision2020 at moscow.com> =======================================================
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