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<body class='hmmessage'>A location map for the Hawkins Mall<BR>
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Tom Hansen<BR>
Moscow, Idaho<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
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> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:35:53 -0800<BR>> From: kcraine@verizon.net<BR>> To: vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow<BR>> <BR>> This is my concern: the agreement allows Hawkins to hook into <BR>> Moscow's water and sewer systems as if they are within the city <BR>> limits. However, other out-of-limits developments are not granted the <BR>> same privilege. If a mall or subdivision wants city services, it must <BR>> be annexed so that it pays the same taxes to the city as every other <BR>> development. Based on the agreement, Hawkins will not pay any propery <BR>> taxes nor use fees beyond what in-city developments such as the <BR>> Palouse Empire Mall pay.<BR>> <BR>> My question is: what happens when the City is required by federal or <BR>> state law to upgrade our sewer or water systems (or are assessed <BR>> fines as we those we recently shelled out for failure to meet federal <BR>> standards). Will Hawkins have to contribute their fair share to those <BR>> expensive endeavors or do we, the citizens of Moscow, have to <BR>> subsidize their commercial use?<BR>> <BR>> Kit Craine<BR>> <BR>> On Feb 6, 2008, at 5:38 PM, g. crabtree wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > I'm not sure what all the whining is about. What is the benefit of <BR>> > the City<BR>> > of Moscow forking out thousands of dollars to fight a losing battle <BR>> > with<BR>> > Hawkins only to have them acquire a water right that gives Moscow <BR>> > absolutely<BR>> > no control or potential revenue? Without the signing of this agreement<BR>> > Hawkins would have been able to drill a well and draw that water <BR>> > out of the<BR>> > same aquifer we get ours out of without the City having any say. <BR>> > This way,<BR>> > we have some control since we are the provider. Not only that, we <BR>> > should be<BR>> > able to charge them for services at a price significantly higher <BR>> > than what a<BR>> > Moscow business would be paying. The silly assertion that "we Moscow<BR>> > taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County" is without merit. <BR>> > Whitman<BR>> > county will be financing the infrastructure improvements with 9.1 <BR>> > million<BR>> > dollars worth of bonds and fire protection will come via a new <BR>> > rural fire<BR>> > station provided by Hawkins. Instead of grumbling about recalls I <BR>> > think we<BR>> > should be saying thanks guys, job well done!<BR>> ><BR>> > g<BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen@moscow.com><BR>> > To: <london@moscow.com>; <rhayes@turbonet.com>; <BR>> > <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:18 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >> Visionaires -<BR>> >><BR>> >> Crank up your speakers and watch/listen to Wayne Krauss . . .<BR>> >><BR>> >> "Behind Closed Doors"<BR>> >><BR>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI<BR>> >><BR>> >> Tom Hansen<BR>> >> Moscow, Idaho<BR>> >>> R-<BR>> >>> I agree with your concern and your indignation.<BR>> >>> I thought these GMA council candidates were supposed to bring <BR>> >>> "common<BR>> >> sense"<BR>> >>> to Moscow.<BR>> >>> Now we Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County.<BR>> >>> Disgusting<BR>> >>> BL<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> >>> From: "roger hayes" <rhayes@turbonet.com><BR>> >>> To: <vision2020@moscow.com><BR>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:25 AM<BR>> >>> Subject: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow<BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>>> Dear Moscow taxpayers and business owners,<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> It appears the city of Moscow will provide water, sewer, and most<BR>> >>>> likely police and fire services to the proposed Hawkins development<BR>> >>>> which is slated to be built just across the border in <BR>> >>>> Washington. Who<BR>> >>>> will benefit by this? Hawkins, regional developers and Whitman <BR>> >>>> county.<BR>> >>>> The losers will be Moscow businesses and Moscow taxpayers.<BR>> >>>> If this plan comes to fruition, we will be exporting our tax <BR>> >>>> dollars to<BR>> >>>> Whitman county, shipping the profits of local business to another<BR>> >>>> state, while reducing Moscow's tax base, AND increasing the <BR>> >>>> demand on<BR>> >>>> our city's infrastructure. How much money will Hawkins agree to pay<BR>> >>>> Moscow to mitigate the destructive consequences this megamall <BR>> >>>> will have<BR>> >>>> on our city?<BR>> >>>> With the exception of Tom Lamar, the city council voted against the<BR>> >>>> best interests of our city and its citizens. Walter Steed said <BR>> >>>> he could<BR>> >>>> not comment on the negotiations because they were held in <BR>> >>>> "secret." Why<BR>> >>>> the secrecy? Steed also said "this will not make some people <BR>> >>>> happy."<BR>> >>>> Well, when you make a deal which is destructive to the people who<BR>> >>>> elected you, it is bound to make them unhappy.<BR>> >>>> We need to consider a RECALL!<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> Roger Hayes<BR>> >>>> Moscow!<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>> =======================================================<BR>> >>>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> >>>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> >>>> http://www.fsr.net<BR>> >>>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >>>> =======================================================<BR>> >>>><BR>> >>>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>><BR>> >>> =======================================================<BR>> >>> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> >>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> >>> http://www.fsr.net<BR>> >>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >>> =======================================================<BR>> >>><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> "People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in<BR>> >> chat-<BR>> >> room forums are neither brave nor clever."<BR>> >><BR>> >> - Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,<BR>> >> 2007)<BR>> >><BR>> >> ---------------------------------------------<BR>> >> This message was sent by First Step Internet.<BR>> >> http://www.fsr.com/<BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> >> =======================================================<BR>> >> List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> >> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> >> http://www.fsr.net<BR>> >> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> >> =======================================================<BR>> >><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > =======================================================<BR>> > List services made available by First Step Internet,<BR>> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> > http://www.fsr.net<BR>> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> > =======================================================<BR>> <BR>> =======================================================<BR>> List services made available by First Step Internet, <BR>> serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994. <BR>> http://www.fsr.net <BR>> mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com<BR>> =======================================================<BR><BR></body>
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