[Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow

[Craine Kit]

This is my concern: the agreement allows Hawkins to hook into  
Moscow's water and sewer systems as if they are within the city  
limits. However, other out-of-limits developments are not granted the  
same privilege. If a mall or subdivision wants city services, it must  
be annexed so that it pays the same taxes to the city as every other  
development. Based on the agreement, Hawkins will not pay any propery  
taxes nor use fees beyond what in-city developments such as the  
Palouse Empire Mall pay.

My question is: what happens when the City is required by federal or  
state law to upgrade our sewer or water systems (or are assessed  
fines as we those we recently shelled out for failure to meet federal  
standards). Will Hawkins have to contribute their fair share to those  
expensive endeavors or do we, the citizens of Moscow, have to  
subsidize their commercial use?

Kit Craine

On Feb 6, 2008, at 5:38 PM, g. crabtree wrote:

> I'm not sure what all the whining is about. What is the benefit of  
> the City
> of Moscow forking out thousands of dollars to fight a losing battle  
> with
> Hawkins only to have them acquire a water right that gives Moscow  
> absolutely
> no control or potential revenue? Without the signing of this agreement
> Hawkins would have been able to drill a well and draw that water  
> out of the
> same aquifer we get ours out of without the City  having any say.   
> This way,
> we have some control since we are the provider.  Not only that, we  
> should be
> able to charge them for services at a price significantly higher  
> than what a
> Moscow business would be paying. The silly assertion that "we Moscow
> taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County" is without merit.  
> Whitman
> county will be financing the infrastructure improvements with 9.1  
> million
> dollars worth of bonds and fire protection will come via a new  
> rural fire
> station provided by Hawkins. Instead of grumbling about recalls I  
> think we
> should be saying thanks guys, job well done!
>
> g
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: <london at moscow.com>; <rhayes at turbonet.com>;  
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow
>
>
>> Visionaires -
>>
>> Crank up your speakers and watch/listen to Wayne Krauss . . .
>>
>> "Behind Closed Doors"
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>> R-
>>> I agree with your concern and your indignation.
>>> I thought these GMA council candidates were supposed to bring  
>>> "common
>> sense"
>>> to Moscow.
>>> Now we Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County.
>>> Disgusting
>>> BL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "roger hayes" <rhayes at turbonet.com>
>>> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:25 AM
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear Moscow taxpayers and business owners,
>>>>
>>>> It appears the city of Moscow will provide water, sewer, and most
>>>> likely police and fire services to the proposed Hawkins development
>>>> which is slated to be built just across the border in  
>>>> Washington. Who
>>>> will benefit by this? Hawkins, regional developers and Whitman  
>>>> county.
>>>> The losers will be Moscow businesses and Moscow taxpayers.
>>>> If this plan comes to fruition, we will be exporting our tax  
>>>> dollars to
>>>> Whitman county, shipping the profits of local business to another
>>>> state, while reducing Moscow's tax base, AND increasing the  
>>>> demand on
>>>> our city's infrastructure. How much money will Hawkins agree to pay
>>>> Moscow to mitigate the destructive consequences this megamall  
>>>> will have
>>>> on our city?
>>>> With the exception of Tom Lamar, the city council voted against the
>>>> best interests of our city and its citizens. Walter Steed said  
>>>> he could
>>>> not comment on the negotiations because they were held in  
>>>> "secret." Why
>>>> the secrecy? Steed also said "this will not make some people  
>>>> happy."
>>>> Well, when you make a deal which is destructive to the people who
>>>> elected you, it is bound to make them unhappy.
>>>> We need to consider a RECALL!
>>>>
>>>> Roger Hayes
>>>> Moscow!
>>>>
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>>
>>
>> "People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in
>> chat-
>> room forums are neither brave nor clever."
>>
>> - Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,
>> 2007)
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