[Vision2020] Steed still selling Moscow water?
mark seman
fcs at moscow.com
Sun Dec 21 01:34:46 PST 2008
water is not the issue. how or whom delivers the water is the central
dispute. The Palouse region, Whitman & Latah counties, individual towns,
and individual citizens need to consider what is being done - in terms of
the Future. Does quality infrastructure that allows improved mutual
municipal connection & benefit for Moscow & Pullman, seem better than a
dense isolated system with onsite containment?
Would a self-sustainable entity be better for Life on the Palouse, or would
the expansion of an inefficient & aging system?. Both creations will be new
and not require much near-term maintenance. Expansion of the existing will
be expensive [if only partly due to accomodating future maximum capacities],
so doesn't it make more sense to concentrate infrastructure exactly where it
is needed and then expand from there to other locations of new growth?
Rather than expend public resources on extending existing inefficiency and
having to generate complex cross-border IGA's, let them [Hawkins] generate
and re-generate their own need(s) & solution(s). Do not try to unreasonably
help them, but support their individual effort to be self-sustaining,
socially responsible, and economically viable.
So what if there sprung-up another sort of 'village' that was
self-contained. People could live/learn/work/play right there...or within a
bike's ride of it - they could still commute. Maybe a Hawkins' tenant
[business/entreprenuer] would even provided an electric shuttle to its
residents and outlying citizens. What if this development also had an R&D
component that was a stepping stone between WSU & UI, providing economic &
technological advancement for both schools and communities, and had an
airport shuttle?
I do not know the Hawkins' development vision, but my vision is very similar
to Moscow's URA efforts, but it is driven by the private sector, and not
located near Moscow's core. It seems obvious to me that there are contrary
forces working for control, which causes none to work well. I suggest that
sincere practical collaboration efforts will get positive results. For the
better good, Moscow needs to not focus on controlling the uncontrollable
water, consider "just because its infill does not make it right", and seek
to offer their unique assets to the tenants of the Hawkins' development, or
develop some other symbiosis.
Moscows' excess infrastructure capacity should not be wasted by extending
its utilities; since infill will occur, this growth will increase
consumption to within the pre-set limits of our existing infrastructure.
Now is a good time to maintain our existing infrastructure and not expand
it, unless it's absolutely necessary. Preserve carrying capacity for the
Future, and diversify now, rather than concentrate.
Mark
m a r k s e m a n
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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 10:39 PM
To: g. crabtree
Cc: tom lamar; Nancy Chaney; tara roberts; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Steed still selling Moscow water?
You make a very good point. I agree with it completely. I'm just
reminded of this quote from the movie "There Will be Blood":
Drainage! Drainage, Eli, you boy. Drained dry. I'm so sorry. Here, if
you have a milkshake, and I have a milkshake, and I have a straw. There
it is, that's a straw, you see? You watching?. And my straw reaches
acroooooooss the room, and starts to drink your milkshake... I...
drink... your... milkshake!
(sucking sounds)
I drink it up!
Paul
g. crabtree wrote:
> /"Moscow's water is pumped from an aquifer that gets smaller every
> year. Despite this dwindling resource, Steed wants the city to pump
> even more and ship it across the state line to flush toilets at the
> Hawkins' development."/
>
> We've been over this before. There is no difference between the water
> that is pumped by the City of Moscow for consumption by the Hawkins
> development and the water that Hawkins would drill for itself. It all
> comes from the same aquifer and the toilets get flushed one way or
> another. If the City of Moscow can generate additional revenue by
> selling water to the development and have a bit of control at the same
> time I am in favor of the plan. I applaud Walt in his efforts and as
> far as the time that is being wasted by the council, staff, and state
> legislators I say good. It might keep the more spendthrift
> members away from stupid projects that will fritter away more of our
> precious tax dollars. I'm thinking about the recent three percent
> increase in our city taxes to be misspent on the latest "urban
> renewal" boondoggle.
>
> g
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bill London <mailto:london at moscow.com>
> *To:* Tom Trail <mailto:ttrail at moscow.com> ; Shirley Ringo
> <mailto:ringoshirl at moscow.com>
> *Cc:* vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> <mailto:vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net> ; Nancy Chaney
> <mailto:nchaney at moscow.com> ; tom lamar <mailto:lamar at pcei.org> ;
> tara roberts <mailto:troberts at dnews.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2008 5:19 PM
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Steed still selling Moscow water?
>
> Representatives Trail and Ringo:
>
> An article in the Daily News (Dec. 19) indicated that Moscow City
> Council member Walter Steed is trying to change Idaho law in order
> to sell Moscow's water to the Hawkins' retail development on the
> Pullman Highway. Steed is now lobbying legislators statewide for
> their support, and I urge you to tell him NO.
>
> Steed needs to end this bizarre quest to sell our water to
> facilitate sprawl development in Washington state.
>
> Moscow's water is pumped from an aquifer that gets smaller every
> year. Despite this dwindling resource, Steed wants the city to
> pump even more and ship it across the state line to flush toilets
> at the Hawkins' development.
>
> The Hawkins' retail development, totally located in Washington
> state, will have profoundly negative impacts on Moscow's economy.
> Sales tax dollars will flow out of Moscow from sales made at
> Hawkin's stores. Also, remember that new retail does not create
> new jobs or new wealth. It only reshuffles the existing dollars.
> Some Moscow stores will likely relocate to the new mall, and more
> Moscow stores will close because of that new development. And, if
> Steed has his way, Moscow would be foolishly funding those
> economic problems by providing the water that makes it possible to
> build the development in the first place.
>
> Steed is wasting his time, but worse he is wasting the time of the
> Moscow City Council and city staff and now legislators statewide
> in his quest to facilitate development in an adjoining state.
> Please tell him NO.
>
> Please respond. I would like to know your opinion on this matter.
>
> Bill London
>
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