[Vision2020] being fair and even

[Sunil Ramalingam]

Roger,

Obviously you can think anything you like.  But what has Obama said himself to support what you claim below?  Nationalize oil?  When did he say that?  

Sunil

> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:28:25 -0700
> From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> To: starbliss at gmail.com
> CC: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] being fair and even
> 
> These are minor changes involving the free market. Obama wants a government reorganization. There is a considerable difference. I think he would try to nationalize Oil and probably other utilities if he thought he could get away with it.
> There is at least one Socialist in the Senate, that goes by that title. There are quite a few other that call themselves democrats. I doubt that any are Communists.
> Roger
> 
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Ted Moffett" starbliss at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:51:23 -0700
> To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] being fair and even
> 
> > It's no secret the US energy economy will be restructured, eventually,
> > whether we want to or not.  The days of oil as a primary transportation fuel
> > are limited.  If we got the US off foreign oil, this would be a major
> > restructuring.  The problematic relationship with Saudi Arabia would be
> > dramatically altered, perhaps in the best interests of the US and the Middle
> > East.  And I mean involving the close to a trillion dollars the Saudis have
> > invested in the US economy (gee, I wonder if this influences US foreign
> > policy?).
> > 
> > It can happen greatly via the private sector (though no doubt some corporate
> > interests will resist), so I don't know why Roger makes this comment by
> > Obama (if this is what he indeed said, and I'd like to read the full
> > context, ) out to imply only Socialism.
> > 
> > T. Boone Pickens, Texas oil man, long time Republican, Bush supporter and
> > Swift Boating of John Kerry financier, has a plan to replace 20% of US
> > electricity generation with wind power, then use natural gas, now used
> > greatly to generate electricity (Avista), to power transportation, within
> > ten years. This is a rapid major restructuring.  Pickens recognizes that,
> > though the private sector can accomplish much, government regulation, etc.
> > has an important role to play... He is looking to the next administration
> > (he is deliberately staying non-partisan in the 2008 presidential race) to
> > push his ideas.  An Obama or McCain administration will push to restructure
> > the US energy economy, and government regulation, changes in tax policy
> > etc. will be involved:
> > 
> > http://www.pickensplan.com/
> > 
> > If Obama was a hard core Socialist, he would advocate total government
> > takeover of major sectors of the economy: the oil and auto industry,
> > pharmaceuticals, telecommunications and media, computers, software,
> > utilities and so forth... There are no Socialists in the US Senate.
> > 
> > Ted Moffett
> > 
> > 
> > On 8/20/08, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > What else can he mean by completely restructuring the economy? Think about
> > > it.
> > > Roger
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> > > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:44:06 -0700
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] being fair and even
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Roger,
> > > >
> > > > Seems to me you're making an enormous and unfounded leap to say that
> > > Obama is talking about 'full blown socialism if not communism.'  Without
> > > foundation for that claim it's pretty ludicrous.
> > > >
> > > > Sunil
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:28:22 -0700
> > > > > From: lfalen at turbonet.com
> > > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > Subject: [Vision2020] being fair and even
> > > > >
> > > > > Sue doesn't think I'e been fair and even in the ridicule or poking fun
> > > at department. I think that Saundra's George Bush cartoon was a fair
> > > response to my kittens joke. I will give her another one. The radio talk
> > > show hosts have been belittling Obama for his " that is a higher pay grade
> > > than me" answer at the Saddleback Forum. I don't see a problem with it. He
> > > could have been referring to God. Who knows? In any case why waste time on
> > > it. There are more important thing to be worried about. For instance he said
> > > "It will be necessary to restructure the entire american economy. That
> > > translates to full blown socialism if not communism to me. That scares the
> > > hell out of me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger
> > > > >
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