[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 14 19:20:22 PDT 2007

No!....you guys are not getting it.  Mr. Beebe bled all over the place because he stated he was "fooled" into selling to one person when it was really the CC that was buying the property.  If all this was on the up-and-up, why sneak around and buy it through another person?  Mr. Beebe stated specifically had he known who was the "real buyer", he'd never would have sold it to Hoffman.  BUT, if you look at the dynamics of all this, the facts are that Mr. Beebe and Mr. Hoffman and Dougie were all in it together.

So why the cry "Foul!" by Rick?  Why was he playing the sympathy card (something that is usually Dougie's MO) over some property he couldn't develop on in the first place? At least, not in the way he wanted.  And why is it that HE couldn't get the permits to do what he wanted but Dougie can?

It has nothing to do with anything else, despite Mr. C's crabby cry's to contrary.

J  :]

Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:37:21 -0700
From: godshatter at yahoo.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC


I think I'm leaning towards Mr. Crabtree on this one.  Someone you
don't like just bought some property, and you (and a lot of other
people) are raising a fuss about it.  The only criteria for this seems
to be that you don't like the individual involved or the organization
he represents.  Now you are holding him to task because he went through
a frontman in an attempt to not be stigmatized during the sale based
solely on who he is or what organization he represents.  It's a pity
that  he (allegedly) had to hide his identity in order to be taken
seriously.  We should be asking questions about why this one man is not
being given a fair shake in a negotiation.  Shouldn't we be asking hard
questions about how prejudice is affecting this person?  Shouldn't we
be up in arms because someone is being unfairly treated because of
their religious affiliation?

If you don't want his church to grow bigger, that's one thing.  You can
wish for whatever you like.  But he has the right to buy property
without being treated as a second-class citizen.  His money is as good
as yours or mine.


J Ford wrote:

  Ah, yes...generally the scenario you set up is fine and
dandy.  But, Rick Beebe played the sympathy card when he "disclosed"
that he had been "tricked into selling" to a group he supposedly did
not realize were the true buyers.  AND, if it truly was a sale that was
on the up-and-up, why did it go through one buyer before it went to the
"real" buyer, that being CC or Dougie?  Why the subterfuges?  And if
this "group with money to spend" truly has money to spend, why the
scramble for the members to raise more and more by selling and down
sizing?  Most buyers would have the sense to have money in pocket
before a sale goes through so they don't get caught with their pants
around the ankles and nothing to show for it.  Dougie has been on a
campaign all over his "kingdom" raising funds and getting people to
commit to both the buying of the property across from Gritman for his
"cathedral" as well as getting new kirker blood into Moscow and into
his new development on N Polk.  And now he wants to change the PUD for
THAT property in order to allow for more borders to get into those new


Its only a matter of a year and I can GUARANTEE you that NSA will be
requesting the City Council to allow them to expand to over 200
students, the current amount allowed.


And just to clear the air, since you seem to have all the answers - why
is it that Rick and his bunch are now fronting the new development in
the County?  Last year, the petition was filed by Mike Hoffman.  Why
the switch?  Hmmm.......seems like a lot of back-room-fanagaling going
on between those two groups.


But, like you said - one group has money and another has
property....all this looks innocent to you?


J :]



    From: jampot at roadrunner.com

To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:18:46 -0700

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC


    So what, exactly is there to be unhappy
about? A group with money to spend and a group with property to sell
got together and transacted a mutually agreeable business deal. I don't
think that it's currently necessary to poll the community before
finalizing this kind of arrangement, at least not yet. With out a
change in city governance this November it's hard telling what we might
end up being subjected to. It's not difficult imagining Nancy, queen of
the naught and her like minded henchmen being only too happy to review
private transactions and withhold their stamp of approval from anything
that doesn't meet their anti growth, anti business, left wing agenda.
Original Message ----- 
      J Ford 
      vision2020 at moscow.com 
Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:12 AM
Re: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC

Which absolutely proves what I was told earlier this week - Rick Beebe
DID know who was buying his property across from Gritman.  He figured
if he played the poor fool that was jerked off by Dougie and his bunch,
people would look the other way on his other projects.  In other words,
he's playing the "sympathy card".  Too bad, Rick - people so know what
you did and are NOT happy. 


Wonder if the IRS is aware that you're back to your old tricks?  


J :]



         From: dfrench at moscow.com

To: whayman at roadrummer.com; vision2020 at moscow.com

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:34:11 -0700

Subject: [Vision2020] principals of Developers of the Palouse LLC


        The answer is:
        Larry Germer, Richard Beebe, Jeff Eisinger,
Karl Tyler, according to records filed with the Idaho Secretary of
        (here's the link: http://www.accessidaho.org/public/sos/corp/search.html?ScriptForm.startstep=viewentity&ScriptForm.startScriptForm.start.ScriptStepView.viewentityFILEvalue=W46038 )
        Message: 2

Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:52:04 -0700

From: "Warren Hayman" <whayman at roadrunner.com>

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Amended Agenda for the Latah County

ZoningCommission Special and Regular Meetings September 19, 2007

To: "Bruce and Jean Livingston" <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>,

<vision2020 at moscow.com>,
"Aimee Shipman" <ashipman at latah.id.us>

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Does anyone know who Developers of the Palouse, LLC is?


Warren Hayman


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