[Vision2020] Dispel the anti-growth myth

Mon Oct 29 20:53:59 PDT 2007

Donovan,

Tidyman's has been out of business everywhere since June 2006. link 
to S-R article:

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/local/story.asp?ID=136563

m.

At 8:26 PM -0700 10/29/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>Mark,
>
>The City Council didn't approve the rezone when I was there. They 
>might have changed their mind at a later date. Tidyman's is still in 
>business, just not in Moscow.
>
>True, it was the County, not the City, that pulled the trigger on 
>Naylor Farms, but I bet you $100 the City would not have ruled any 
>differently and would have carried on the fight against them is they 
>got approval from the County.
>
>To a business, it doesn't matter if it is the actual city or county 
>killing their business, it is still killing their business when they 
>try to local here. 70% of the county is the City.
>
>I think sales tax is the problem with the state government, 
>especially on food and OTC drugs and education materials. Moscow has 
>to high of taxes because of school levies. I am not saying education 
>isn't worth funding well, but there is breaking point for what many 
>people on what they can afford to give and the MSD has long passed 
>it.
>
>Best,
>
>Donovan
>
>Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>Donovan,
>
>A few corrections: The City Council approved the rezone of the 40 
>acres behind the Palouse Mall; the county rejected Naylor Farms, not 
>the city; Home Depot never applied for anything from the city when 
>their internal corporate troubles caught up to them (they were 
>negotiating with the UI to build on the UI land the city rezoned 
>behind the mall, see first point); Tidyman's went out of business.
>
>I agree with you re property taxes. If the Idaho Legislature would 
>do something about the billions of dollars in tax exempt sales 
>they've authorized, maybe there would be enough money to fund local 
>government and schools without burdening the property tax payer. Or 
>better yet, rescind Kempthorne's corporate income tax giveaway and 
>the timber land property tax giveaway.
>
>m.
>
>At 7:04 PM -0700 10/29/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>
>>I think the image of Moscow being anti-business is an accurate 
>>perception. And it isn't new, it has just gotten worse.
>>
>
>
>I am sure that many businesses have come to Moscow, even in recent 
>years. However, we are also losing a lot of businesses and are 
>blocking many of them from coming into Moscow. We also prevent 
>businesses from expanding and hiring more people.
>
>
>
>I have attended few city council meetings, but many of them were 
>about blocking some type of business or another. I remember the city 
>council rejecting an entire expansion of businesses behind 
>the Palouse Mall. Many local businesses have been pushed out of 
>the Palouse Mall and the city has done nothing to protect them.
>
>
>
>And as we all know, Moscow rejected a Wal-Mart Supercenter, Naylor 
>Farms, and Home Depot. Likewise it lost Toyota, Tidyman's, and 
>several wonderful restaurants, and a locally owned repair shop in 
>additions to a 1/2 downtown and in the Palouse Mall.
>
>
>
>I do agree with Alturas as being an example of doing "The Right 
>Thing" to get a business in. But as I recall Aaron Ament was against 
>the expansion of that building, and more tax dollars were put into 
>that building than we have received in return.
>
>
>
>I think the biggest anti-business incentives for Moscow are its 
>property taxes. Moscow's taxes make Moscow an unaffordable city that 
>is unfriendly to businesses.
>
>
>
>Best,
>
>
>
>Donovan
>
>
>
>
>
>Bev Bafus <bevbafus at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>Let's add a few expanding businesses. Northwest Management, where I work,
>is currently doubling the size of our office. Northwest River Supplies took
>over the Tidyman's building.
>
>Any other expanding businesses?
>
>Bev
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Saundra Lund
>Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:26 PM
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] Dispel the anti-growth myth
>
>
>The letter below appears in today's Daily News -- anyone care to add more to
>Ms. Sullivan's list?
>
>Also, do any of you GMAers care to provide a list of new businesses that
>came to Moscow during any two-year period of Comstock's reign and a list of
>businesses that were denied?
>
>I think it might be interested to have a ***factual*** comparison rather
>than just rumors designed to tear down the community.
>
>
>Saundra Lund
>
>
>"Dispel the anti-growth myth
>
>I agree that having the "perception" of being anti-growth/anti-business is
>harmful to the city of Moscow, and I was driven to find out why that
>perception exists when Wayne Krauss expressed concerns and asked, "Why do we
>have this perception?" at a recent forum.
>
>Since the most recently elected council came into office in January 2006,
>more than 35 new businesses have opened in Moscow, including Old Navy, Bed,
>Bath and Beyond, Cramer's Furniture, Dad's Diner, Marco Polo, Nectar,
>Lilliput, Sisters Brew Coffeehouse, West of Paris, Palouse Scoots, Moscow
>Bagel and Deli, Anytime Fitness, San Miguels, Sure Shot Sporting Goods,
>Subway, and BioTracking just to name a few. Many businesses have expanded
>
>and moved into larger spaces during this time. Only two businesses were
>denied by the city and these were both handled in the way that Walter Steed
>states he would address a pig farm wanting to locate behind his property;
>they were denied in the specific proposed locations in accordance with
>zoning regulations. Never did city officials say they were not wanted in
>Moscow.
>
>Back to the question posed by Krauss: "Why do we have this perception?" For
>the answer, I would look to recent advertisements in the Moscow-Pullman
>Daily News for Krauss, Steed and Carscallen in which the headline calls the
>current city leadership "anti-growth politicians." I would pay attention to
>who is repeating this anti-growth message over and over.
>
>I believe Dan Carscallen is concerned when he says, "Changing the perception
>is the thing that needs to happen," and if we can all agree that this is
>harmful, we should all agree to stop, to dispel this myth and to promote
>Moscow.
>
>Brandy Sullivan, Moscow"
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