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<div>Donovan,</div>
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<div>Tidyman's has been out of business everywhere since June 2006.
link to S-R article:</div>
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>http://www.spokesmanreview.com/local/story.asp?ID=136563</font></tt></div
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<div>m.</div>
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<div>At 8:26 PM -0700 10/29/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Mark,</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>The City Council didn't approve the
rezone when I was there. They might have changed their mind at a later
date. Tidyman's is still in business, just not in Moscow.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>True, it was the County, not the City,
that pulled the trigger on Naylor Farms, but I bet you $100 the City
would not have ruled any differently and would have carried on the
fight against them is they got approval from the County.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>To a business, it doesn't matter if it is
the actual city or county killing their business, it is still killing
their business when they try to local here. 70% of the county is the
City.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>I think sales tax is the problem with the
state government, especially on food and OTC drugs and education
materials. Moscow has to high of taxes because of school levies. I
am not saying education isn't worth funding well, but there is
breaking point for what many people on what they can afford to give
and the MSD has long passed it.</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Best,</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite> </blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Donovan<br>
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<i><b>Mark Solomon <msolomon@moscow.com></b></i> wrote:<br>
<blockquote>Donovan,</blockquote>
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<blockquote>A few corrections: The City Council approved the rezone of
the 40 acres behind the Palouse Mall; the county rejected Naylor
Farms, not the city; Home Depot never applied for anything from the
city when their internal corporate troubles caught up to them (they
were negotiating with the UI to build on the UI land the city rezoned
behind the mall, see first point); Tidyman's went out of
business.</blockquote>
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<blockquote>I agree with you re property taxes. If the Idaho
Legislature would do something about the billions of dollars in tax
exempt sales they've authorized, maybe there would be enough money to
fund local government and schools without burdening the property tax
payer. Or better yet, rescind Kempthorne's corporate income tax
giveaway and the timber land property tax giveaway.</blockquote>
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<blockquote>m.</blockquote>
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<blockquote>At 7:04 PM -0700 10/29/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>I think the image of Moscow being
anti-business is an accurate perception. And it isn't new, it has just
gotten worse.<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote>I am sure that many businesses have come to Moscow, even
in recent years. However, we are also losing a lot of businesses and
are blocking many of them from coming into Moscow. We also prevent
businesses from expanding and hiring more people.<br>
</blockquote>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote>I have attended few city council meetings, but many of
them were about blocking some type of business or another. I remember
the city council rejecting an entire expansion of businesses behind
the Palouse Mall. Many local businesses have been pushed out of
the Palouse Mall and the city has done nothing to protect
them.<br>
</blockquote>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote>And as we all know, Moscow rejected a Wal-Mart
Supercenter, Naylor Farms, and Home Depot. Likewise it lost Toyota,
Tidyman's, and several wonderful restaurants, and a locally owned
repair shop in additions to a 1/2 downtown and in the Palouse
Mall.<br>
</blockquote>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote>I do agree with Alturas as being an example of
doing "The Right Thing" to get a business in. But as I
recall Aaron Ament was against the expansion of that building, and
more tax dollars were put into that building than we have
received in return.<br>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote>I think the biggest anti-business incentives for Moscow
are its property taxes. Moscow's taxes make Moscow an unaffordable
city that is unfriendly to businesses.<br>
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<blockquote> <br>
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<blockquote>Best,<br>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote>Donovan<br>
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<i><b>Bev Bafus <bevbafus@verizon.net></b></i> wrote:<br>
<blockquote>Let's add a few expanding businesses. Northwest
Management, where I work,<br>
is currently doubling the size of our office. Northwest River Supplies
took<br>
over the Tidyman's building.<br>
<br>
Any other expanding businesses?<br>
<br>
Bev<br>
<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: vision2020-bounces@moscow.com<br>
[mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Saundra Lund<br>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:26 PM</blockquote>
<blockquote>To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>
Subject: [Vision2020] Dispel the anti-growth myth<br>
<br>
<br>
The letter below appears in today's Daily News -- anyone care to add
more to<br>
Ms. Sullivan's list?<br>
<br>
Also, do any of you GMAers care to provide a list of new businesses
that<br>
came to Moscow during any two-year period of Comstock's reign and a
list of<br>
businesses that were denied?<br>
<br>
I think it might be interested to have a ***factual*** comparison
rather<br>
than just rumors designed to tear down the community.<br>
<br>
<br>
Saundra Lund<br>
<br>
<br>
"Dispel the anti-growth myth<br>
<br>
I agree that having the "perception" of being
anti-growth/anti-business is<br>
harmful to the city of Moscow, and I was driven to find out why
that<br>
perception exists when Wayne Krauss expressed concerns and asked,
"Why do we<br>
have this perception?" at a recent forum.<br>
<br>
Since the most recently elected council came into office in January
2006,<br>
more than 35 new businesses have opened in Moscow, including Old Navy,
Bed,<br>
Bath and Beyond, Cramer's Furniture, Dad's Diner, Marco Polo,
Nectar,<br>
Lilliput, Sisters Brew Coffeehouse, West of Paris, Palouse Scoots,
Moscow<br>
Bagel and Deli, Anytime Fitness, San Miguels, Sure Shot Sporting
Goods,<br>
Subway, and BioTracking just to name a few. Many businesses have
expanded<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>and moved into larger spaces during this time. Only two
businesses were<br>
denied by the city and these were both handled in the way that Walter
Steed<br>
states he would address a pig farm wanting to locate behind his
property;<br>
they were denied in the specific proposed locations in accordance
with<br>
zoning regulations. Never did city officials say they were not wanted
in<br>
Moscow.<br>
<br>
Back to the question posed by Krauss: "Why do we have this
perception?" For<br>
the answer, I would look to recent advertisements in the
Moscow-Pullman<br>
Daily News for Krauss, Steed and Carscallen in which the headline
calls the<br>
current city leadership "anti-growth politicians." I would
pay attention to<br>
who is repeating this anti-growth message over and over.<br>
<br>
I believe Dan Carscallen is concerned when he says, "Changing the
perception<br>
is the thing that needs to happen," and if we can all agree that
this is<br>
harmful, we should all agree to stop, to dispel this myth and to
promote<br>
Moscow.<br>
<br>
Brandy Sullivan, Moscow"<br>
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