[Vision2020] Sub-minimum wage

Sun Oct 28 20:26:32 PDT 2007

And none taken --keelyFrom: jampot at roadrunner.comTo: kjajmix1 at msn.com; sunilramalingam at hotmail.comCC: vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] Sub-minimum wageDate: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:47:33 -0700

I, and I'm sure everyone else on the list realized the 
jest and irony in the quote you're referring to. It was just too great to leave 
off. No disrespect was intended.

g

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  keely emerinemix 

  To: g. crabtree ; Sunil Ramalingam 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:29 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Sub-minimum 
  wage
  Gary,I'm not "normally demure."  I'm normally just 
  a straight-talking and opinionated woman who writes better than some and worse 
  than others.  I'm often stubborn, occasionally intemperate, frequently 
  passionate, and always genuine.Currently, though, I'm astonished, if 
  not more than a little amused, that you would seemingly fail to realize that 
  "poopy-headed booger eater" was in jest.  I was serious about "badgering, 
  bellicose twits," "stubborn, truculent ass," and even "testosto-twits."  
  But really, Gary -- "poopy" and "booger" aren't words I use unless pointing 
  out when someone's being immature in his or her belligerence.  It's 
  irony, you big silly.(And please refresh my memory on the object of 
  "stubborn, truculent ass."  I want to make sure I don't repeat myself in 
  referring to anyone in particular).With nary a "neener, neener, 
  neener" --keely

    From: jampot at roadrunner.comTo: sunilramalingam at hotmail.comDate: Sun, 
    28 Oct 2007 14:03:40 -0700CC: vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: 
    [Vision2020] Sub-minimum wage
    No, I call him Mr. Campbell because that is 
    what I was brought up to regard as the correct way to address a stranger 
    who I am not on friendly terms with. I do not call him 
    Dr. Campbell because I reserve the prefix for MD's and introductions where 
    using the term will convey due respect and information in that context. 
    In my day to day interaction with people I almost never use the term. That 
    said, there is no question but what I occasionally do a poor job 
    of hiding my lack of regard for Mr. Campbell. If this occasionally 
    comes out in my responses to him, so be it. As I have said before, I don't 
    consider myself a saint.

    When it comes to things posted to this list, 
    insult often tends to be the rule rather then the exception. Please 
    consider:

    You to another vision member: " moron,  a 
    pathetic imbecilic braying ass, the Biggest Idiot on the 
    Palouse, liar, a prolapsed rectum"

    Mr. Campbell to me: "ponyboy, ignorant slut, 
    idiot, hack, coward, bigot, stupid, and jackass"

    Mr. Hansen of his pals: "No-clue, His 
    Whineyness, Comb-Over, Brainless, and Crabpot"

    Even the normally demure Ms. Mix: "badgering 
    bellicose pest, stubborn truculent ass, testosto-twits, and poopy headed 
    booger eater"

    Need I go on?

    All this is not to imply that I think insult is 
    "fine, acceptable behavior" but, to acknowledge that when opinions 
    conflict sometimes the level of discourse might suffer. The fact that no one 
    from the MCA leapt in to criticize any of the above remarks is most likely 
    NOT indicative of their "endorsement of the politics of hate," or that the 
    candidates that they endorse are in some way complicit. To imagine otherwise 
    would be illogical and a mite foolish.

    g

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
    Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
    Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:48 
    PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sub-minimum 
    wage
    > Gary,> > You just told us you call Joe 'Mr. 
    Campbell' in order to demonstrate your > lack of regard for 
    him.> > Isn't that pretty much an insult?> > 
    Sunil> > >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>>>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sub-minimum wage>>Date: 
    Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:42:17 -0700>>>>Mr. 
    Arnold,>>>>Please allow me to fill you in on why I refer 
    to most folks as Mr. or Ms.  >>I was brought up to refer to 
    strangers as Mr. Mrs. & Miss and it's a habit >>I retain. 
    First names are reserved for informal chat with people I have 
    >>been introduced to, and/or people have a minimally cordial 
    relationship >>with. This why I will often refer to you as Donovan 
    in our off line banter. >>I hope you don't 
    mind.>>>>Titles are a matter of respect and I use them 
    (when I'm aware of them) in >>formal introductions where 
    appropriate and mostly as a matter of course >>with MD's and PhD's 
    that I have some regard for.>>>>I hope this clears up 
    why I refer to "Mr. Campbell" the way I do. I don't >>do it as an 
    insult per se, I do it because it's the only civil way I know >>of 
    to refer to him.>>>>g> > 
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