[Vision2020] Sub-minimum wage

[g. crabtree]

I, and I'm sure everyone else on the list realized the jest and irony in the quote you're referring to. It was just too great to leave off. No disrespect was intended.

g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: keely emerinemix 
  To: g. crabtree ; Sunil Ramalingam 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:29 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Sub-minimum wage


  Gary,

  I'm not "normally demure."  I'm normally just a straight-talking and opinionated woman who writes better than some and worse than others.  I'm often stubborn, occasionally intemperate, frequently passionate, and always genuine.

  Currently, though, I'm astonished, if not more than a little amused, that you would seemingly fail to realize that "poopy-headed booger eater" was in jest.  I was serious about "badgering, bellicose twits," "stubborn, truculent ass," and even "testosto-twits."  But really, Gary -- "poopy" and "booger" aren't words I use unless pointing out when someone's being immature in his or her belligerence.  It's irony, you big silly.

  (And please refresh my memory on the object of "stubborn, truculent ass."  I want to make sure I don't repeat myself in referring to anyone in particular).

  With nary a "neener, neener, neener" --

  keely






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    From: jampot at roadrunner.com
    To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
    Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:03:40 -0700
    CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sub-minimum wage


    No, I call him Mr. Campbell because that is what I was brought up to regard as the correct way to address a stranger who I am not on friendly terms with. I do not call him Dr. Campbell because I reserve the prefix for MD's and introductions where using the term will convey due respect and information in that context. In my day to day interaction with people I almost never use the term. That said, there is no question but what I occasionally do a poor job of hiding my lack of regard for Mr. Campbell. If this occasionally comes out in my responses to him, so be it. As I have said before, I don't consider myself a saint.

    When it comes to things posted to this list, insult often tends to be the rule rather then the exception. Please consider:

    You to another vision member: " moron,  a pathetic imbecilic braying ass, the Biggest Idiot on the Palouse, liar, a prolapsed rectum"

    Mr. Campbell to me: "ponyboy, ignorant slut, idiot, hack, coward, bigot, stupid, and jackass"

    Mr. Hansen of his pals: "No-clue, His Whineyness, Comb-Over, Brainless, and Crabpot"

    Even the normally demure Ms. Mix: "badgering bellicose pest, stubborn truculent ass, testosto-twits, and poopy headed booger eater"

    Need I go on?

    All this is not to imply that I think insult is "fine, acceptable behavior" but, to acknowledge that when opinions conflict sometimes the level of discourse might suffer. The fact that no one from the MCA leapt in to criticize any of the above remarks is most likely NOT indicative of their "endorsement of the politics of hate," or that the candidates that they endorse are in some way complicit. To imagine otherwise would be illogical and a mite foolish.

    g




    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
    Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
    Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 4:48 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sub-minimum wage


    > Gary,
    > 
    > You just told us you call Joe 'Mr. Campbell' in order to demonstrate your 
    > lack of regard for him.
    > 
    > Isn't that pretty much an insult?
    > 
    > Sunil
    > 
    > 
    >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
    >>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
    >>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
    >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sub-minimum wage
    >>Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:42:17 -0700
    >>
    >>Mr. Arnold,
    >>
    >>Please allow me to fill you in on why I refer to most folks as Mr. or Ms.  
    >>I was brought up to refer to strangers as Mr. Mrs. & Miss and it's a habit 
    >>I retain. First names are reserved for informal chat with people I have 
    >>been introduced to, and/or people have a minimally cordial relationship 
    >>with. This why I will often refer to you as Donovan in our off line banter. 
    >>I hope you don't mind.
    >>
    >>Titles are a matter of respect and I use them (when I'm aware of them) in 
    >>formal introductions where appropriate and mostly as a matter of course 
    >>with MD's and PhD's that I have some regard for.
    >>
    >>I hope this clears up why I refer to "Mr. Campbell" the way I do. I don't 
    >>do it as an insult per se, I do it because it's the only civil way I know 
    >>of to refer to him.
    >>
    >>g
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