[Vision2020] Friday Fireworks

[B. J. Swanson]

Bill,

$15,000 is an understatement. Multiplying that by 3 will get you closer.

The competition from Pullman and the realization that $30,000 to  
$50,000 could be better spent on a tangible community improvement  
instead of blowing it up probably killed the event.

However, perhaps a partnership with U-I for a better Homecoming  
celebration is a possibility. The advantages:

-No competition from Pullman
-Always on a weekend
-It gets dark earlier
-Less chance of fires
-Fewer people out of town on summer vacation
-Share the cost
-Solicit donations from alumni
-Improve relations with the U-I, etc.

St. Maries has a great fireworks show on Labor Day weekend. They  
switched from the 4th of July because of competition from Coeur  
d'Alene. 70+ yachts cruise up the river for the show. We could have 70 
+ alumni motorhome tailgaters in the Kibbee Dome parking lot.

GO VANDALS! KaBoooom!

B. J. Swanson

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On Oct 18, 2007, at 11:25 AM, "Bill London" <london at moscow.com> wrote:

> M-
> in answer to your question, yes, a local fireworks display would  
> help bring the community together.
> let's take this another step further...
> given that many people in this area go to Pullman for their  
> fireworks/music/food and given that the Moscow fireworks have  
> stopped due to lack of interest and funding, is an effort to  
> reignite (so to speak) this Moscow fireworks proposal likely to work?
> If you care deeply, go for it.  But it is not easy to gather a bunch  
> of volunteers and to raise $15,000 for a big fireworks show.
> My personal feeling is that I enjoyed watching the fireworks, (the  
> UI fireworks at homecoming on 10/13 were great) but I still think  
> the amount of work and money needed for a July 4 community fireworks  
> event would be better used in building trails, completing parks, or  
> any number of other community activities.
> BL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matt Decker
> To: Bill London ; Donovan Arnold ; Debbie Gray ; jeanlivingston ;  
> vision2020
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:48 PM
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks
>
> Bill,
>
> I took you as a man of loyal local principle. One that likes to buy  
> local, ride bikes, enjoy our town, save on gas,etc. Isn't this what  
> MCA is all about? Our town, Moscow Idaho.
>
> So why would you or myself, for that matter, want to go to Pullman,  
> spending my local dollars over there along with gas money. Wouldn't  
> it be great if you could just venture down to Wicks field once again  
> with friends and family, all for a mutual benefit of watching our  
> donated money going up in a big colorful bang.
>
> Wouldn't that help bring our town even more together?
>
> Matt
>
> From: london at moscow.com
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; graylex at yahoo.com; jeanlivingston at turbonet.com 
> ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:09:26 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks
>
> Why is it important for Moscow to duplicate the fireworks & live  
> music & BBQ food available on July 4 just 8 miles away in Pullman?
> BL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donovan Arnold
> To: Debbie Gray ; jeanlivingston ; vision2020
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks
>
> My suggestion;
>
> Have a BBQ with games, and have MSD children act out scenes from the  
> US History and the signing of the Declaration.
>
> Get the city and county to match funds raised. Get private  
> businesses to donate food and supplies in turn allow them to  
> advertise at the event. Make it a MCA/GMA joined effort to supply  
> the people power. And don't forget to have a raffle with door  
> prizes. I would hold it that East City Park. Also invite bands for  
> patriotic music. You can usually find volunteers through the UI  
> Music Department.
>
> Best,
>
> Donovan
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Debbie Gray <graylex at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hmmm. Maybe this is an opportunity for vision2020
> people to put some action behind all the talk and
> figure out a way to fundraise for fireworks for the
> 4th? It's a nice community-building activity and
> potential common ground for people to meet and greet
> and put aside their DIFFERENCES and be a community for
> a few hours.
>
> Didn't the firefighters traditionally spearhead this?
> Anyone have contacts with anyone that used to organize
> fireworks? If tiny little Elk River can work up the
> fundage to have fireworks, why can't Moscow?
> debbie gray
>
> --- jeanlivingston
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I am with Matt on this one. I have always been
> > disappointed since
> > Moscow stopped having a fireworks show or any
> > significant kind of
> > community celebration on the Fourth of July. We
> > ought to have one.Â
> > Reading the Declaration of Independence          at
> > Freidnship Square is fine,
> > but it is not the same as having a community event
> > with music and food
> > and fellowship, followed by a nice fireworks show.
> >
> >
> > Bruce Livingston
> >
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:09:23 -0700
> > To: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com,
> > nickgier at adelphia.net
> > Subject: Re:          [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks
> >
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > > How do you know his sentiment, when our discussion
> > was private?
> > >
> > > As to your          comments. Me BEEF is with the city. I
> > could care less
> > about the fireworks two nights ago. Wish I was
> > there. I only wished
> > people in Moscow would donate money, such as the
> > students andothers
> > did, so we could all enjoy, which should be our most
> > celebrated
> > holiday, July 4th.
> > > I'm not going to whine and cry about it just
> > wondered if others
> > thought the way I do.
> > >
> > > Tom I can't figure out if you just disagree with
> > everything I say
> > because you believe me to be a republican, or if you
> > just can't come
> > to a realization that "others" might have valid
> > points.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > > To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com; nickgier at adelphia.net
> > > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:18:12 -0700
> > > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; privatejf32 at hotmail.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was merelysupporting Nick Gier’s
> > > sentiment, Matt.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You stated:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > “As in regards to fireworks. Why in
> > > sams hell can't Moscow
> > > have a show on the forth, but we can have one for
> > a homecoming game
> > for one of
> > > the worst ranked teams in the nation?
> > Priorities?�
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > One question, Matt: Huh?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your argument might have some meat to it,
> > > Matt, if both instances (Fourth of July          fireworks
> > and UI Homecoming
> > fireworks)
> > > were paid for by the city. Your argument is with
> > the city for not
> > > organizing fireworks activities on the Fourth of
> > July. I would most
> > > definitely support your argument there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Another thing: Your implication that
> > > UI should not have fireworks because their
> > football team is doing so
> > poorly
> > >lacks rationale to say the least.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom Hansen
> > >
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Wording plays a big part in understand[ing] the
> > nature and meaning
> > a
> > > verse written two thousand years ago in a
> > different language, and
> > some Bibles
> > > just have it plain wrong."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Donovan Arnold (August 23, 2005)
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > From: Matt Decker
> > > [mailto:mattd2107 at hotmail.com]
> > >
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007
> > > 3:09 PM
> > >
> > > To: Tom Hansen;
> > > nickgier at adelphia.net
> > >
> > > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; 'J
> > > Ford'
> > >
> > > Subject: RE:[Vision2020] Friday
> > > Fireworks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tom,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This had nothing to do with how I feel about Bush
> > or the war. It          was
> > about
> > > donations. Donations for the wounded troops vs.
> > donations for the
> > poor
> > > professors. All of which I believe you would be
> > for.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As in regards to fireworks. Why in sams hell can't
> > Moscow have a
> > show on the forth, but we can
> > > have one for a homecoming game for one of the
> > worst ranked teams in
> > the nation?
> > > Priorities?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > >
> > > > To: nickgier at adelphia.net; mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:47:13 -0700
> > >
> > > > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com;
> > privatejf32 at hotmail.com
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re:[Vision2020] Friday Fireworks
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > It has been painfully evident for the past six
> > years that the Bush
> > >
> > > > administration doesn't give a DAMN about
> > veterans.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Bush talks a good game. But, when it comes          to
> > actually committing
> > money
> > >
> > > > (beyond what few dollars veterans realize from a
> > VA fraught with
> > > deception),
> > >
> > > > time (beyond the Fourth of July parades), and
> > effort (beyond
> > election year
> > >
> > > > photo ops), Bush is nothing more than a leach
> > sucking our soldiers
> > dry and
> > >
> > > > kicking them to the curb.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I could show you the increase in percentages of
> > homeless,
> > drug-addicted,
> > >
> > > > mentally ill veterans that have been virtually
> > swept under the rug
> > during
> > >
> > > > the past six years, butI'll leave that to you
> > fine people to
> > discover for
> > >
> > > > yourselves.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The Bush administration epitomizes the          old
> > saying:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > "One casualty is horrible. A thousand casualties
> > is a
> > > statistic."
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Tom Hansen
> > >
> > > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > ***************************************************
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > "Seldom, if ever, has a war ended leaving the
> > victors with such a
> > > sense of
> > >
> > > > uncertainty and fear -- with          such a realization
> > that the future is
> > obscure
> > >
> > > > and that survival is not assured."
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > - Edward          R.Murrow
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > ***************************************************
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> > [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> > >
> > > > On Behalf Of nickgier at adelphia.net
> > >
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:32 AM
> > >
> > > > To: Matt Decker
> > >
> > > > Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; J Ford
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Matt,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The responsibility to take care of our wounded
> > vets is a federal
> > one. But
> > >
> > > > one could suggest that their care could be
> > deducted from Bush's
> > pay and
> > > then
> > >
> > > > his very substantial retirement check. After all
> > heis the one who
> > put in
> > >
> > > > them in harm's way and then neglected them when
> > they returned
> > home.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Nick Gier
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
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