<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Bill,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>$15,000 is an understatement. Multiplying that by 3 will get you closer. </div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>The competition from Pullman and the realization that $30,000 to $50,000 could be better spent on a tangible community improvement instead of blowing it up probably killed the event.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>However, perhaps a partnership with U-I for a better Homecoming celebration is a possibility. The advantages:</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>-No competition from Pullman</div><div>-Always on a weekend </div><div>-It gets dark earlier </div><div>-Less chance of fires</div><div>-Fewer people out of town on summer vacation</div><div>-Share the cost</div><div>-Solicit donations from alumni</div><div>-Improve relations with the U-I, etc.<br><br></div><div>St. Maries has a great fireworks show on Labor Day weekend. They switched from the 4th of July because of competition from Coeur d'Alene. 70+ yachts cruise up the river for the show. We could have 70+ alumni motorhome tailgaters in the Kibbee Dome parking lot.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>GO VANDALS! KaBoooom!</div><div><br><div>B. J. Swanson</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>--------------</div></div><div><br>On Oct 18, 2007, at 11:25 AM, "Bill London" <<a href="mailto:london@moscow.com">london@moscow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div><font face="Arial">M-</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">in answer to your question, yes, a local fireworks display
would help bring the community together.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">let's take this another step further...</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">given that many people in this area go to Pullman for
their fireworks/music/food and given that the Moscow fireworks have stopped due
to lack of interest and funding, is an effort to reignite (so to speak) this
Moscow fireworks proposal likely to work?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">If you care deeply, go for it. But it is not easy to
gather a bunch of volunteers and to raise $15,000 for a big fireworks
show. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">My personal feeling is that I enjoyed watching the
fireworks, (the UI fireworks at homecoming on 10/13 were great) but I still
think the amount of work and money needed for a July 4 community fireworks event
would be better used in building trails, completing parks, or any number of
other community activities.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial">BL</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="mattd2107@hotmail.com" href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">Matt
Decker</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="london@moscow.com" href="mailto:london@moscow.com">Bill London</a> ; <a title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</a> ; <a title="graylex@yahoo.com" href="mailto:graylex@yahoo.com">Debbie Gray</a> ; <a title="jeanlivingston@turbonet.com" href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">jeanlivingston</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020</a>
</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:48
PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks</div>
<div><br></div>Bill,<br><br>I took you as a man of loyal local principle. One
that likes to buy local, ride bikes, enjoy our town, save on gas,etc. Isn't
this what MCA is all about? Our town, Moscow Idaho.<br><br>So why would you or
myself, for that matter, want to go to Pullman, spending my local dollars over
there along with gas money. Wouldn't it be great if you could just venture
down to Wicks field once again with friends and family, all for a mutual
benefit of watching our donated money going up in a big colorful bang.
<br><br>Wouldn't that help bring our town even more
together?<br><br>Matt<br><br>
<blockquote>
<hr>
From: <a href="mailto:london@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:london@moscow.com">london@moscow.com</a></a><br>To: <a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com</a></a>;
<a href="mailto:graylex@yahoo.com"><a href="mailto:graylex@yahoo.com">graylex@yahoo.com</a></a>;
<a href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">jeanlivingston@turbonet.com</a>; <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a></a><br>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007
09:09:26 -0700<br>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks<br><br>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Why is it important for Moscow to duplicate the
fireworks & live music & BBQ food available on July 4 just 8 miles
away in Pullman?</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">BL</font></div>
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Original Message ----- </div>
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<a title="donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com" href="mailto:donovanjarnold2005@yahoo.com">Donovan Arnold</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><b>To:</b>
<a title="graylex@yahoo.com" href="mailto:graylex@yahoo.com">Debbie Gray</a>
; <a title="jeanlivingston@turbonet.com" href="mailto:jeanlivingston@turbonet.com">jeanlivingston</a> ; <a title="vision2020@moscow.com" href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><b>Sent:</b>
Monday, October 15, 2007 9:12 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>My suggestion;</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Have a BBQ with games, and have MSD children act out scenes from the
US History and the signing of the Declaration. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Get the city and county to match funds raised. Get private businesses
to donate food and supplies in turn allow them to advertise at the event.
Make it a MCA/GMA joined effort to supply the people power. And don't
forget to have a raffle with door prizes. I would hold it that East City
Park. Also invite bands for patriotic music. You can usually find
volunteers through the UI Music Department. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Donovan</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Just a thought. <br><br><b><i>Debbie Gray
<<a href="mailto:graylex@yahoo.com">graylex@yahoo.com</a>></i></b> wrote:</div>
<blockquote class="EC_replbq" style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">Hmmm.
Maybe this is an opportunity for vision2020<br>people to put some action
behind all the talk and<br>figure out a way to fundraise for fireworks
for the<br>4th? It's a nice community-building activity and<br>potential
common ground for people to meet and greet<br>and put aside their
DIFFERENCES and be a community for<br>a few hours.<br><br>Didn't the
firefighters traditionally spearhead this?<br>Anyone have contacts with
anyone that used to organize<br>fireworks? If tiny little Elk River can
work up the<br>fundage to have fireworks, why can't Moscow?<br>debbie
gray<br><br>--- jeanlivingston <br>wrote:<br><br>> <br>> I am with
Matt on this one. I have always been<br>> disappointed since<br>>
Moscow stopped having a fireworks show or any<br>> significant kind
of<br>> community celebration on the Fourth of July. We<br>>
ought to have one. <br>> Reading the Declaration of Independence
at<br>> Freidnship Square is fine,<br>> but it is not the same as
having a community event<br>> with music and food<br>> and
fellowship, followed by a nice fireworks show.<br>> <br>> <br>>
Bruce Livingston<br>> <br>> <br>> -----Original
message-----<br>> From: Matt Decker <a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a></a><br>>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:09:23 -0700<br>> To: Tom Hansen
<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a>,<br>> <a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net"><a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net">nickgier@adelphia.net</a></a><br>> Subject: Re:
[Vision2020] Friday Fireworks<br>> <br>> > <br>> >
Tom,<br>> > <br>> > How do you know his sentiment, when our
discussion<br>> was private?<br>> > <br>> > As to your
comments. Me BEEF is with the city. I<br>> could care less<br>>
about the fireworks two nights ago. Wish I was<br>> there. I only
wished<br>> people in Moscow would donate money, such as the<br>>
students andothers<br>> did, so we could all enjoy, which should be
our most<br>> celebrated<br>> holiday, July 4th.<br>> > I'm
not going to whine and cry about it just<br>> wondered if
others<br>> thought the way I do.<br>> > <br>> > Tom I
can't figure out if you just disagree with<br>> everything I
say<br>> because you believe me to be a republican, or if you<br>>
just can't come<br>> to a realization that "others" might have
valid<br>> points. <br>> > <br>> > Matt<br>> >
<br>> > From: <a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></a><br>> > To:
<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net"><a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net">nickgier@adelphia.net</a></a><br>> > Date: Sun, 14
Oct 2007 15:18:12 -0700<br>> > CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com"><a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</a></a><br>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > I was merelysupporting Nick Gier’s<br>> >
sentiment, Matt.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
You stated:<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > “As
in regards to fireworks. Why in<br>> > sams hell can't
Moscow<br>> > have a show on the forth, but we can have one
for<br>> a homecoming game<br>> for one of<br>> > the worst
ranked teams in the nation?<br>> Priorities?�<br>> > <br>>
> <br>> > <br>> > One question, Matt: Huh?<br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Your argument might have some
meat to it,<br>> > Matt, if both instances (Fourth of July
fireworks<br>> and UI Homecoming<br>> fireworks)<br>> > were
paid for by the city. Your argument is with<br>> the city for
not<br>> > organizing fireworks activities on the Fourth
of<br>> July. I would most<br>> > definitely support your
argument there.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
Another thing: Your implication that<br>> > UI should not have
fireworks because their<br>> football team is doing so<br>>
poorly<br>> >lacks rationale to say the least.<br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
Seeya round town, Moscow.<br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > Tom Hansen<br>> > <br>> > Moscow,
Idaho<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > "Wording
plays a big part in understand[ing] the<br>> nature and
meaning<br>> a<br>> > verse written two thousand years ago in
a<br>> different language, and<br>> some Bibles<br>> > just
have it plain wrong."<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>>
> - Donovan Arnold (August 23, 2005)<br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > From: Matt Decker<br>> >
[mailto:<a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a>] <br>> > <br>> > Sent: Sunday,
October 14, 2007<br>> > 3:09 PM<br>> > <br>> > To: Tom
Hansen;<br>> > <a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net"><a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net">nickgier@adelphia.net</a></a><br>> > <br>> >
Cc: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>; 'J<br>> > Ford'<br>> > <br>>
> Subject: RE:[Vision2020] Friday<br>> > Fireworks<br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
Tom,<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > This had
nothing to do with how I feel about Bush<br>> or the war. It
was<br>> about<br>> > donations. Donations for the wounded
troops vs.<br>> donations for the<br>> poor<br>> >
professors. All of which I believe you would be<br>> for.<br>>
> <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > As in regards to
fireworks. Why in sams hell can't<br>> Moscow have a<br>> show on
the forth, but we can<br>> > have one for a homecoming game for
one of the<br>> worst ranked teams in<br>> the nation?<br>>
> Priorities?<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> >
Matt<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > <br>> > > From:
<a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:thansen@moscow.com">thansen@moscow.com</a></a><br>> > <br>> > > To:
<a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net">nickgier@adelphia.net</a>; <a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com"><a href="mailto:mattd2107@hotmail.com">mattd2107@hotmail.com</a></a><br>> > <br>> >
> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:47:13 -0700<br>> > <br>> >
> CC: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>;<br>> <a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com"><a href="mailto:privatejf32@hotmail.com">privatejf32@hotmail.com</a></a><br>>
> <br>> > > Subject: Re:[Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks<br>> > <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> >
> It has been painfully evident for the past six<br>> years that
the Bush<br>> > <br>> > > administration doesn't give a
DAMN about<br>> veterans. <br>> > <br>> > > <br>>
> <br>> > > Bush talks a good game. But, when it comes
to<br>> actually committing<br>> money<br>> > <br>> >
> (beyond what few dollars veterans realize from a<br>> VA fraught
with<br>> > deception),<br>> > <br>> > > time
(beyond the Fourth of July parades), and<br>> effort (beyond<br>>
election year<br>> > <br>> > > photo ops), Bush is
nothing more than a leach<br>> sucking our soldiers<br>> dry
and<br>> > <br>> > > kicking them to the curb.<br>>
> <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > > I could show
you the increase in percentages of<br>> homeless,<br>>
drug-addicted,<br>> > <br>> > > mentally ill veterans
that have been virtually<br>> swept under the rug<br>>
during<br>> > <br>> > > the past six years, butI'll leave
that to you<br>> fine people to<br>> discover for<br>> >
<br>> > > yourselves.<br>> > <br>> > > <br>>
> <br>> > > The Bush administration epitomizes the
old<br>> saying: <br>> > <br>> > > <br>> >
<br>> > > "One casualty is horrible. A thousand
casualties<br>> is a<br>> > statistic."<br>> > <br>>
> > <br>> > <br>> > > Seeya round town,
Moscow.<br>> > <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > >
Tom Hansen<br>> > <br>> > > Moscow, Idaho<br>> >
<br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > ><br>>
***************************************************<br>> >
<br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > > "Seldom, if ever,
has a war ended leaving the<br>> victors with such a<br>> >
sense of<br>> > <br>> > > uncertainty and fear -- with
such a realization<br>> that the future is<br>> obscure<br>>
> <br>> > > and that survival is not assured."<br>> >
<br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > > - Edward
R.Murrow<br>> > <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> >
><br>> ***************************************************<br>>
> <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > > -----Original
Message-----<br>> > <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> >
> From: <a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com"><a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a></a><br>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:vision2020-bounces@moscow.com">vision2020-bounces@moscow.com</a>]<br>> > <br>> > >
On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net"><a href="mailto:nickgier@adelphia.net">nickgier@adelphia.net</a></a><br>> > <br>> > > Sent:
Sunday, October 14, 2007 10:32 AM<br>> > <br>> > > To:
Matt Decker<br>> > <br>> > > Cc: <a href="mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</a>; J
Ford<br>> > <br>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday
Fireworks<br>> > <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> >
> Hi Matt,<br>> > <br>> > > <br>> > <br>>
> > The responsibility to take care of our wounded<br>> vets is
a federal<br>> one. But<br>> > <br>> > > one could
suggest that their care could be<br>> deducted from Bush's<br>>
pay and<br>> > then<br>> > <br>> > > his very
substantial retirement check. After all<br>> heis the one who<br>>
put in<br>> > <br>> > > them in harm's way and then
neglected them when<br>> they returned<br>> home.<br>> >
<br>> > > <br>> > <br>> > > Nick Gier<br>>
> <br>> > > <br>> > <br>> >
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