[Vision2020] Friday Fireworks

[Donovan Arnold]

Gier,
   
  I didn't realize you retired four years ago. Although your positions can drive me insane at times, I appreciate your service to the University and for the willing to put forth ideas that were so open to public ridicule from people like me : ). 
   
  I hope your retirement is a long and good one, you deserve it. 
   
  Best to you,
   
  Donovan

Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu> wrote:
  Matt,

You still don't understand the difference between 20 percent of UI staff who make under $10.75 per hour, and faculty who have been getting pretty good raises, although still at the bottom of their peer institutions.

Just for the record, I did quit four years ago.  It's called retirement.

To Donovan: my proposal used the CPI as a standard.  I never made it to the CPI, but the upper administration have done it for years.  Only those above the CPI would donate their extras wages.

Nick Gier

At 05:59 PM 10/14/2007, you wrote:
  Nick,

The great thing about your and my job is we can quit. If you don't think you make enough than quit. I doubt our wounded soldiers can do that.

So again I would rather donate my meager earnings to our troops than to the "highly underpaid" staff.

Matt

> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:12:38 -0700
> From: nickgier at adelphia.net
> To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Friday Fireworks
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> You misunderstood what the issue was about. In my post I made a clear distinction between the administrators and faculty, who have received good pay raises over the past four years, while classified staff have not. Nearly 20 percent, according to Tom Trail's figures, are under the poverty line. 
> 
> I also noted that administrators are way ahead of the CPI and full professors are way behind, but UI staff are even further behind, how much we don't know because salary figures are available.
> 
> My new suggestion is that UI administrators donate all their salary above the CPI to fund a living wage of $10.75 for all UI classified staff.
> 
> Nick
> 
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