[Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN

Sun Oct 14 14:27:14 PDT 2007

Rather than do the point-by-point which has been 
discussed extensively on this list, try 
substituting the "current leadership of this 
country, political and corporate" for "leaders of 
Middle Eastern nations".

m.

At 1:44 PM -0700 10/14/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:
>I wish you would.
>
>Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>"Most leaders of Middle Eastern nations hoard 
>their nations wealth, living in lavish palaces 
>while their constituents live in dire poverty 
>lacking even the basics of proper medical care. 
>They also deny democracy and a voice to the 
>people, and basic freedom of speech."
>
>Donovan, do I really have to point out the obvious?
>
>Mark
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>At 11:34 AM -0700 10/14/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:
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>>I think you would find most Americans are in 
>>favor removing the brutal repressive 
>>dictatorships that rule over many Muslims 
>>nations. Many of them are very wicked people 
>>with no morals or concern for the individual 
>>well-being of their constituents. Woman are 
>>given no rights, non-believers of their faith 
>>are killed, as well as homosexuals, or any 
>>woman that commits adultery or disobeys her 
>>husband, even if she is the victim of rape.
>>
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>Most leaders of Middle Eastern nations hoard 
>their nations wealth, living in lavish palaces 
>while their constituents live in dire poverty 
>lacking even the basics of proper medical care. 
>They also deny democracy and a voice to the 
>people, and basic freedom of speech.
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>I personally, don't see how others can agree 
>with the justification of supporting these 
>governments as Sunil does.
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>As to converting people to Christianity, I think 
>that is a separate goal that needs to be done by 
>private citizens exercising their first 
>amendment rights. I don't think you would find 
>most Christians believe you can physically force 
>people into accepting Christ as your savior. It 
>think it is something that most be done one on 
>one with Christ.
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>I believe that all peoples have the right to a 
>government that is working on behalf of all 
>their constituents and allows people the freedom 
>to explore and find another faith. In many of 
>these brutal nations which Sunil defends the 
>people do not enjoy these rights.
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>Best,
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>Donovan
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>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>The criticisms of Coulter are on target, particularly after you look at
>other things she has said or written. Here's her gem about Muslims:
>
>'We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to
>Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only
>Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed
>civilians. That's war. And this is war.'
>
>As Carl has said, saying outrageous things is her shtick. But to look at
>the quote that got this discussion going and finding harmless explanations
>is like digging through her excrement and looking for diamonds. Either way
>you're covered with her crap.
>
>Sunil
>
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>>  > > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:46:38 -0700
>>  > > From: joekc at adelphia.net
>>  > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>  > > Subject: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
>>  > >
>>  > > Conservative commentator and best-selling author Ann
>>  > Coulter may find herself in the midst of a controversy for
>>  > comments Monday suggesting America would be better if
>>  > everyone was Christian.
>>  > >
>>  > > Asked by CNBC host Donny Deutsch what the U.S. looks like
>>  > in her dreams, Coulter said it would look like the
>>  > Republican National Convention in 2004
>>  > >
>>  > > "People were happy," she said, according to a transcript
>>  > provided to CNN by CNBC. "They're Christian. They're
>>  > tolerant. They defend America."
>>  > >
>>  > > When Deutsch responded, "It would be better if we were
>>  > all Christian?" Coulter said "Yeah."
>>  > >
>>  > > Deutsch, himself Jewish, continued to press Coulter on
>>  > her remarks, asking, "We should just throw Judaism away
>  > > and we should all be Christians then?"
>>  > >
>>  > > "Yeah," Coulter responded, adding "Well, it's a lot
>>  > easier. It's kind of a fast track."
>>  > >
>>  > > "You can't possibly believe that," Deutsch responded.
>>  > "You can't possibly. You're too educated."
>>  > >
>>  > > "Do you know what Christianity is?" Coulter replied.
>>  > "See, we believe your religion, but you have to obey. We
>
>  > > have the fast track program."
>>  > >
>>  > > Later in the interview Deutsch asked Coulter if she
>>  > doesn't want any Jews in the world, Coulter responded,
>>  > "No, we think — we just want Jews to be perfected, as they
>>  > say."
>>  > >
>>  > > "Wow, you didn't really say that, did you," Deutsch said.
>>  > >
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