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<div>Rather than do the point-by-point which has been discussed
extensively on this list, try substituting the &quot;current
leadership of this country, political and corporate&quot; for
&quot;leaders of Middle Eastern nations&quot;.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>m.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>At 1:44 PM -0700 10/14/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>I wish you would.<br>
<br>
<i><b>Mark Solomon &lt;msolomon@moscow.com&gt;</b></i> wrote:<br>
<blockquote>&quot;Most&nbsp;leaders of Middle Eastern nations hoard
their nations wealth, living in lavish palaces while their
constituents live in dire poverty lacking even the basics of proper
medical care. They also deny democracy and a voice to the people, and
basic freedom of speech.&quot;</blockquote>
<blockquote><br></blockquote>
<blockquote>Donovan, do I really have to point out the
obvious?</blockquote>
<blockquote><br></blockquote>
<blockquote>Mark</blockquote>
<blockquote><br></blockquote>
<blockquote><br></blockquote>
<blockquote>At 11:34 AM -0700 10/14/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>I think you would find most Americans are
in favor removing the brutal repressive dictatorships that rule over
many Muslims nations. Many of them are very wicked people with no
morals or concern for the individual well-being of their constituents.
Woman are given no rights, non-believers of their faith are killed, as
well as homosexuals, or any woman that commits adultery or disobeys
her husband,&nbsp;even if she is the victim of rape.<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>Most&nbsp;leaders of Middle Eastern nations hoard their
nations wealth, living in lavish palaces while their constituents live
in dire poverty lacking even the basics of proper medical care. They
also deny democracy and a voice to the people, and basic freedom of
speech.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>I personally, don't see how others can agree with the
justification of supporting these governments as Sunil does.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>As to converting people to Christianity, I think that is a
separate goal that needs to be done by private citizens exercising
their first amendment rights. I don't think you would find most
Christians believe you can physically force people into accepting
Christ as your savior. It think it is something that most be done one
on one with Christ.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>I believe that all peoples have the right to a government
that is working on behalf of all their constituents and allows people
the freedom to explore and find another faith. In many of these brutal
nations which Sunil defends the people do not enjoy these rights.<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>Best,<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>Donovan<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote><br>
<br>
<i><b>Sunil Ramalingam &lt;sunilramalingam@hotmail.com&gt;</b></i>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote>The criticisms of Coulter are on target, particularly
after you look at<br>
other things she has said or written. Here's her gem about
Muslims:<br>
<br>
'We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them
to<br>
Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing
only<br>
Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we
killed<br>
civilians. That's war. And this is war.'<br>
<br>
As Carl has said, saying outrageous things is her shtick. But to look
at<br>
the quote that got this discussion going and finding harmless
explanations<br>
is like digging through her excrement and looking for diamonds. Either
way<br>
you're covered with her crap.<br>
<br>
Sunil<br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:46:38 -0700<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; From: joekc@adelphia.net<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; To: vision2020@moscow.com<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Conservative commentator and best-selling author
Ann<br>
&gt; &gt; Coulter may find herself in the midst of a controversy
for<br>
&gt; &gt; comments Monday suggesting America would be better if<br>
&gt; &gt; everyone was Christian.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Asked by CNBC host Donny Deutsch what the U.S. looks
like<br>
&gt; &gt; in her dreams, Coulter said it would look like the<br>
&gt; &gt; Republican National Convention in 2004<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;People were happy,&quot; she said, according to a
transcript<br>
&gt; &gt; provided to CNN by CNBC. &quot;They're Christian.
They're<br>
&gt; &gt; tolerant. They defend America.&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; When Deutsch responded, &quot;It would be better if we
were<br>
&gt; &gt; all Christian?&quot; Coulter said &quot;Yeah.&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Deutsch, himself Jewish, continued to press Coulter
on<br>
&gt; &gt; her remarks, asking, &quot;We should just throw Judaism
away</blockquote>
<blockquote>&gt; &gt; and we should all be Christians then?&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;Yeah,&quot; Coulter responded, adding &quot;Well,
it's a lot<br>
&gt; &gt; easier. It's kind of a fast track.&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;You can't possibly believe that,&quot; Deutsch
responded.<br>
&gt; &gt; &quot;You can't possibly. You're too educated.&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;Do you know what Christianity is?&quot; Coulter
replied.<br>
&gt; &gt; &quot;See, we believe your religion, but you have to obey.
We<br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>&gt; &gt; have the fast track program.&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Later in the interview Deutsch asked Coulter if she<br>
&gt; &gt; doesn't want any Jews in the world, Coulter responded,<br>
&gt; &gt; &quot;No, we think — we just want Jews to be perfected, as
they<br>
&gt; &gt; say.&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;Wow, you didn't really say that, did you,&quot;
Deutsch said.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;
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