[Vision2020] [CORRECTED SPELLING] Rights and Wrongs

[keely emerinemix]

Thank you, Tom, for reminding us that, unfortunate as it is, Wilson has said and does believe just that -- "that U.S. slavery was OK."  He said that a good Christian man could own slaves with nary a worry about it being sinful, and while I find that a little hard to square with his later assertion that the abolition of slavery was a case of "good riddance," I have no doubt, and neither should anyone else, that Wilson believes that very thing.

Which, of course, Witmer is well aware of.

keely




> From: thansen at moscow.com
> To: cdwitmer at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:48:30 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [CORRECTED SPELLING] Rights and Wrongs
> 
> Christopher Witmer stated:
> 
> "Nobody that I know of has said "that US slavery was OK," and when you call
> someone who has NOT said that an idiot for allegedly having said that, it is
> you who becomes not only an idiot but also a slanderer."
> 
> >From "Southern Slavery As It Was" (written by Steve Wilkins and Douglas
> Wilson) at:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/26gpaa
> 
> "Slavery as it existed in the South was not an adversarial relationship with
> pervasive racial animosity. Because of its dominantly patriarchal character,
> it was a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence. There has
> never been a multi-racial society which has existed with such mutual
> intimacy and harmony in the history of the world. The credit for this must
> go to the predominance of Christianity. The gospel enabled men who were
> distinct in nearly every way, to live and work together, to be friends and
> often intimates. This happened to such an extent that moderns indoctrinated
> on 'civil rights' propaganda would be thunderstruck to know the half of it."
> 
> Perhaps Joe Campbell would have been more accurate had he said that Doug
> Wilson not only said those words, he wrote, published, and sold those words.
> 
> As far as Steve Wilkins is concerned . . .
> 
> More on him (and the Federal Vision) later.
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "I'll just speak for our church, in Christ Church.  If I found out that a
> member of our church or a church officer was lying to non-believers in the
> community, as a way to get by or protect themself or protect his reputation,
> yes, he'd be disciplined."
> 
> - Doug Wilson (January 31, 2007)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Christopher Witmer
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 3:10 AM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Rights and Wrongs
> 
> 
> Joe Campbell wrote:
> 
> [[ How can someone have the right to say that US slavery was OK yet someone 
> else not have the right to call him an idiot? I admit that the latter is
> offensive 
> but to suggest that it is more offensive than the former is absurd. ]]
> 
> What's at issue is not whether something is offensive, but whether something
> is true. Go ahead and call anyone an idiot if that makes you feel better,
> but please stick to the facts and not your vain imaginings. Nobody that I
> know of has said "that US slavery was OK," and when you call someone who has
> NOT said that an idiot for allegedly having said that, it is you who becomes
> not only an idiot but also a slanderer.
> 
> [[ Moreover, no one on Vision 2020 is capable of censoring anyone. That's
> what 
> is great about this forum, and different from RightMind and Blog&Mablog. ]]
> 
> If you think it's great that people can make idiotic assertions and slander
> with impunity, then yes, I'd have to agree there is a lot of greatness on
> V2020. It's a greatness that I'm glad Right Mind and Blog & Mablog "lack."
> 
> -- Chris
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