[Vision2020] Why I'm going to vote Yes on the Levy

Sun Nov 11 16:34:55 PST 2007

No, I don't have any scheduled days off per say. But I can always request one if I really need one. Sometimes I only have to work three hours. Which is a relief. 

  Best,

  Donovan

Janesta <janesta at gmail.com> wrote:
    THREE jobs?!?!? You must be working all the time! Do you ever get a day off? I did that for a year, and it is tough.

  Janesta

  On 11/11/07, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:     Mr. Rigsby,

  I have three jobs. How many more do you think I should have before you think it is enough to not be called lazy by you?

  As to contributing to society, all three of my jobs involve taking care of the disabled and elderly. If that is not contributing to society, what job do you suggest I seek employ with to meet your definition a significant contribution to society? 

  I work hard for what little money I make, Mr. Rigsby. And I expect every dollar I pay in taxes to be used as efficiently as possible to help as many people as possible because I see, daily, the conditions and lack of proper medical care people receive. So I only think it the responsible thing to do to ask where money is going and how it is to be used before I give it up. 

  And on a personal note, you don't know my grandfather, so please don't speak about what he did or didn't do, as I will withhold from speaking about your family members. Your words are uncalled for and I ask politely that you please leave MY FAMILY out of your nasty talk. Thank you. 

  Best,

  Donovan   

TIM RIGSBY <tim.rigsby at hotmail.com> wrote:

    DJA writes:

"Isn't the point of high school and education in general to be able to survive and make a living in the real world? At least I thought that was the point. I think we need to give kids access to as many tools as possible, and let the kids choose the tools they like best to give them the best opportunity to be successful." 

Did you go to high school and graduate?  Did you go to college and receive a Bachelors degree?  Haven't you started or even completed your masters?  Why are you always complaining about how expensive it is to shop at WinCo, how expensive rent is for your apartment, how expensive it is to drive all the way around the 3rd street bridge that does not exist, how expensive gas is, how expensive medical services are.  Everything with you is a complaint yet you claim that a person with an education should be able to survive and make a living in the real world.  Perhaps, you have not come close to experiencing the real world.  Perhaps you are still suckling off of the teats of society.  Perhaps you should get off your rear, like your grandfather Lee did (and it is Lee, not Gerard, ask him about the Lazy J), get a job, work hard, and quit complaining.  Use your education degree, contribute to society.  Quit complaining and move along. 

TJR

" 'Politics is the art of controlling your environment.' That is one of the key things I learned in these years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody who thinks that 'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted and sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other side of the World -- or been beaten and gassed by Police for trespassing on public property -- or been hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons -- or locked up in the Cook County Jail with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perverts wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you will wish you had voted." - Hunter S. Thompson 

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  Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:40:13 -0800
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; mike_l_f at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I'm going to vote Yes on the Levy

  Keely,

  I am not talking about forcing children into tracks. I am talking about giving every child a shot at being what they are good at. I am not talking about denying any kids a chance at learning academically, I am talking about giving the kids a chance at developing a skill that they can bring into the workforce. 

  Isn't the point of high school and education in general to be able to survive and make a living in the real world? At least I thought that was the point. I think we need to give kids access to as many tools as possible, and let the kids choose the tools they like best to give them the best opportunity to be successful. 

  Best,

  Donovan

keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
  Donovan, the district can't "promise $1.5 million" of any amount to non college-bound students.  First of all, the enormity and complexity of NCLB and state regulations means that all enrolled kids have to be taught certain specific curricula.  Second, and most important here, schools are not in the business of deciding who is and who isn't a college-bound student.  To their credit, they teach the very best to the very most; anything else, such as tailoring curricula to the presumptive experiences in or out of college upon graduation, harkens back to the nauseating days of the 60s and 70s, when "tracking" was a common practice.  Minority kids, poor kids, kids who struggled academically -- the school decided they were on the "shop track" and funneled them to what we now call voc-tech classes.  Kids like you, kids like me -- we were "tracked" as college-bound, primarily because we were Anglo, didn't struggle enormously in school, and had parents who could and would agitate
 for "better," more academically-oriented classes.  Woe be it to the Mexican American student in Tucson in the mid-70s who wanted the college track and who aspired to be a physician or lawyer or engineer; the clear message, with a wide-eyed appeal to "the best for the student," was tracking based on demographics that denied individual promise.  It stunk then.  Thank God one of the very few benefits of NCLB is that it would illegally stink now. 

keely

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  Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:52:21 -0800
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: mike_l_f at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I'm going to vote Yes on the Levy 

  Mike,

  You are little nicer than me. I want to see MSD dedicate the money first, then I would support them. I don't understand why they cannot promise $1,500,000 of their $7,000,000+ cannot go to non college bound students. I don't think that is unfair to ask. 

  They promise nothing with the taxpayers money except to spend it. 

  Best,

Donovan

Mike Finkbiner <mike_l_f at hotmail.com> wrote:
  My son graduated from Moscow High and I know several teachers who have 
worked in the district.

We are not identical to Pullman, but I get very tired of hearing that we 
can't compare ourselves to them. Only a few miles apart, both are small 
towns next to a university. Pullman has made more opportunities available 
for their students in both voc-ed and dual enrollment. It may be difficult 
for us, but I feel that if we do not expand our offerings in both areas we 
will continue throwing away many students who don't fit into the average 
college bound mold.

I'm going to vote yes on the levy, but after that - if the school district 
can't convince me that they are working VERY HARD to improve dual 
enrollment opportunities with the U of I and add more vocational education 
opportunities - in the future I will be voting No.

-Mike 

Mike Finkbiner
mike_l_f at hotmail.com

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