[Vision2020] Why I'm going to vote Yes on the Levy

Sun Nov 11 16:14:36 PST 2007

THREE jobs?!?!? You must be working all the time! Do you ever get a day off?
I did that for a year, and it is tough.

Janesta

On 11/11/07, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Mr. Rigsby,
>
> I have three jobs. How many more do you think I should have before you
> think it is enough to not be called lazy by you?
>
> As to contributing to society, all three of my jobs involve taking care of
> the disabled and elderly. If that is not contributing to society, what job
> do you suggest I seek employ with to meet your definition a significant
> contribution to society?
>
> I work hard for what little money I make, Mr. Rigsby. And I expect every
> dollar I pay in taxes to be used as efficiently as possible to help as many
> people as possible because I see, daily, the conditions and lack of proper
> medical care people receive. So I only think it the responsible thing to do
> to ask where money is going and how it is to be used before I give it up.
>
> And on a personal note, you don't know my grandfather, so please don't
> speak about what he did or didn't do, as I will withhold from speaking about
> your family members. Your words are uncalled for and I ask politely that
> you please leave MY FAMILY out of your nasty talk. Thank you.
>
> Best,
>
> Donovan
>
> *TIM RIGSBY <tim.rigsby at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
> DJA writes:
>
> "Isn't the point of high school and education in general to be able to
> survive and make a living in the real world? At least I thought that was the
> point. I think we need to give kids access to as many tools as possible, and
> let the kids choose the tools they like best to give them the best
> opportunity to be successful."
>
> Did you go to high school and graduate?  Did you go to college and receive
> a Bachelors degree?  Haven't you started or even completed your masters?
> Why are you always complaining about how expensive it is to shop at WinCo,
> how expensive rent is for your apartment, how expensive it is to drive all
> the way around the 3rd street bridge that does not exist, how expensive gas
> is, how expensive medical services are.  Everything with you is a complaint
> yet you claim that a person with an education should be able to survive and
> make a living in the real world.  Perhaps, you have not come close to
> experiencing the real world.  Perhaps you are still suckling off of the
> teats of society.  Perhaps you should get off your rear, like your
> grandfather Lee did (and it is Lee, not Gerard, ask him about the Lazy J),
> get a job, work hard, and quit complaining.  Use your education degree,
> contribute to society.  Quit complaining and move along.
>
> TJR
>
> " 'Politics is the art of controlling your environment.' That is one of
> the key things I learned in these years, and I learned it the hard way.
> Anybody who thinks that 'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been
> Drafted and sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other
> side of the World -- or been beaten and gassed by Police for trespassing on
> public property -- or been hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons
> -- or locked up in the Cook County Jail with a broken nose and no phone
> access and twelve perverts wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is
> when it matters who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when
> you will wish you had voted." - Hunter S. Thompson
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:40:13 -0800
> From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; mike_l_f at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I'm going to vote Yes on the Levy
>
> Keely,
>
> I am not talking about forcing children into tracks. I am talking about
> giving every child a shot at being what they are good at. I am not talking
> about denying any kids a chance at learning academically, I am talking about
> giving the kids a chance at developing a skill that they can bring into the
> workforce.
>
> Isn't the point of high school and education in general to be able to
> survive and make a living in the real world? At least I thought that was the
> point. I think we need to give kids access to as many tools as possible, and
> let the kids choose the tools they like best to give them the best
> opportunity to be successful.
>
> Best,
>
> Donovan
>
>
>
> *keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>* wrote:
>
> Donovan, the district can't "promise $1.5 million" of any amount to non
> college-bound students.  First of all, the enormity and complexity of NCLB
> and state regulations means that all enrolled kids have to be taught certain
> specific curricula.  Second, and most important here, schools are not in the
> business of deciding who is and who isn't a college-bound student.  To their
> credit, they teach the very best to the very most; anything else, such as
> tailoring curricula to the presumptive experiences in or out of college upon
> graduation, harkens back to the nauseating days of the 60s and 70s, when
> "tracking" was a common practice.  Minority kids, poor kids, kids who
> struggled academically -- the school decided they were on the "shop track"
> and funneled them to what we now call voc-tech classes.  Kids like you, kids
> like me -- we were "tracked" as college-bound, primarily because we were
> Anglo, didn't struggle enormously in school, and had parents who could and
> would agitate for "better," more academically-oriented classes.  Woe be it
> to the Mexican American student in Tucson in the mid-70s who wanted the
> college track and who aspired to be a physician or lawyer or engineer; the
> clear message, with a wide-eyed appeal to "the best for the student," was
> tracking based on demographics that denied individual promise.  It stunk
> then.  Thank God one of the very few benefits of NCLB is that it would
> illegally stink now.
>
> keely
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:52:21 -0800
> From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> To: mike_l_f at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why I'm going to vote Yes on the Levy
>
> Mike,
>
> You are little nicer than me. I want to see MSD dedicate the money first,
> then I would support them. I don't understand why they cannot promise
> $1,500,000 of their $7,000,000+ cannot go to non college bound students. I
> don't think that is unfair to ask.
>
> They promise nothing with the taxpayers money except to spend it.
>
> Best,
>
> Donovan
>
> *Mike Finkbiner <mike_l_f at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
> My son graduated from Moscow High and I know several teachers who have
> worked in the district.
>
> We are not identical to Pullman, but I get very tired of hearing that we
> can't compare ourselves to them. Only a few miles apart, both are small
> towns next to a university. Pullman has made more opportunities available
> for their students in both voc-ed and dual enrollment. It may be difficult
>
> for us, but I feel that if we do not expand our offerings in both areas we
>
> will continue throwing away many students who don't fit into the average
> college bound mold.
>
> I'm going to vote yes on the levy, but after that - if the school district
>
> can't convince me that they are working VERY HARD to improve dual
> enrollment opportunities with the U of I and add more vocational education
>
> opportunities - in the future I will be voting No.
>
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> Mike Finkbiner
> mike_l_f at hotmail.com
>
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