[Vision2020] New NO info...

[J Ford]

Ok and for those of us who live next to or within a very short distance - just over the suggested 100 feet - of college kids who REFUSE to acknowledge that there are families trying to put their little ones to bed at 8pm, and who's "neighbors" play their music/car stereos at a high volume (enough to shake windows and be heard very clearly in a home) - what do you suggest?  That we just bare with it until 10pm?  Measure and make sure they are within that distance before we call the cops?  

I get that YOU don't have an issue with these punks but there are those of us who do and are tired of dealing with it.  Noise is noise.  Disturbing the Peace is still disturbing no matter the distance or what others like you (OBVIOUSLY not bothered by rap or a heavy bass being played at loud volume) seem to feel is acceptable.

The bit about waiting for a month is just ridiculous.  If this were some car being gunned or some other kind of loud, obnoxious noise being perpetrated upon neighbors, you don't seem to have a problem with that being told to stop.  But you give a punky teen some stereo equipment and suddenly things are ok.  Why is that?

And why is it ok with you to put people in harm's way by making them sign a citation against the offender?  If you see someone, obviously driving in an erratic manner and you report that, do you sign a citation against that driver?  No, you don't.  So why put a home owner in jeopardy with this NO?  Ask the lady on Taylor who's home smells like urine because of what she's been through with the college fools!  Or the people around Vandal....they had to put up with a YEAR of noise and mess because of the current NO which had no more teeth than the watered-down-from-that-one-version you are purposing.  

If a cop is dispatched to a neighborhood where noise can clearly be heard any distance away from the residence from which it is coming, he/she should be able to make out a citation to the offender without involving the names and addresses of those who made the call reporting the noise.

Just don't see why you don't get that.

J  :]


> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:18:43 -0800
> From: garrettmc at verizon.net
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] New NO info...
> 
> No new NOers,
> 
> I received an informative email from Linda Pall and we
> may be on our way to finding reasonable language.  She
> spoke with Judge Hamlett, who pointed her towards
> Boise's Noise Ordinace:
> 
> http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/City_Clerk/PDF/CityCode/Title6/0620.pdf
> 
> Basically, it make's this illegal:
> 
> LOUD AMPLIFICATION DEVICE: 
> Any equipment designed or used for sound production,
> reproduction, or amplification, including, but not
> limited to any radio, television, phonograph, musical
> instrument, stereo, tape player, compact disc player,
> loud speaker, public  address  (P.A.)  system,  sound 
> amplifier,  or comparable sound broadcasting device. 
> 
> 
> if this occurs:
> 
> A. is plainly audible within any place of residence
> not the source of the sound, or, 
> 
> B. is plainly audible upon a public right-of-way or
> street at a distance of one hundred (100) feet or more
> from the source of such sound. 
> 
> 
> I could live with similar language of this ordinance.
> For our NO, I'd like to add:
> 
> 1 month warning period
> Police can issue ticket without complaint between
> hours of 10pm and 7am 
> Neighbors have to complain outside of the above time
> frame
> 
> I've added >>> BOLDED TEXT <<< to the Boise code to
> clear this up:
> 
> 
> Section 6-20-04 ENFORCEMENT 
> 
> A. Peace officer citation.  >>> DURING HOURS BETWEEN
> 10 P.M. AND 7 A.M. <<< Any >>>MOSCOW<<< City peace
> officer or person empowered to enforce this  provision
> of the >>>MOSCOW<<< City Code is authorized to issue a
> uniform citation upon his own observation of a
> violation without the necessity of a citizen
> complainant's signature on said citation >>AFTER FIRST
> ISSUING 1 WARNING TO OFFENDER AND OFFENDER REPEATS
> VIOLATION WITHIN 1 MONTH PERIOD <<<. By signing the
> citation officer or person is certifying that  he has
> reasonable grounds to believe that the person cited 
> committed the offense contrary to law. 
> 
> B. Citizen citation.   A uniform citation may also be
> signed 
> by any citizen or person in whose presence an alleged 
> violation of this Ordinance occurred and be witnessed
> by a 
> >>>MOSCOW<<< City peace officer or person empowered to
> enforce 
> this provision of the >>>MOSCOW<<< City Code whose
> name shall be 
> endorsed on the citation >>AFTER FIRST ISSUING 1
> WARNING TO OFFENDER AND OFFENDER REPEATS VIOLATION
> WITHIN 1 MONTH PERIOD <<<
> 
> 
> That seems reasonable to me.  What do you think?
> 
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