[Vision2020] New NO info...

Fri Nov 9 12:41:12 PST 2007

Fine, establish a maximum noise level and have the responding cop measure it 
with a decible meter.  If it exceeds the limit, write the ticket.

Sunil

>From: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New NO info...
>Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 07:57:50 -0800
>
>
>Ok and for those of us who live next to or within a very short distance - 
>just over the suggested 100 feet - of college kids who REFUSE to 
>acknowledge that there are families trying to put their little ones to bed 
>at 8pm, and who's "neighbors" play their music/car stereos at a high volume 
>(enough to shake windows and be heard very clearly in a home) - what do you 
>suggest?  That we just bare with it until 10pm?  Measure and make sure they 
>are within that distance before we call the cops?
>
>I get that YOU don't have an issue with these punks but there are those of 
>us who do and are tired of dealing with it.  Noise is noise.  Disturbing 
>the Peace is still disturbing no matter the distance or what others like 
>you (OBVIOUSLY not bothered by rap or a heavy bass being played at loud 
>volume) seem to feel is acceptable.
>
>The bit about waiting for a month is just ridiculous.  If this were some 
>car being gunned or some other kind of loud, obnoxious noise being 
>perpetrated upon neighbors, you don't seem to have a problem with that 
>being told to stop.  But you give a punky teen some stereo equipment and 
>suddenly things are ok.  Why is that?
>
>And why is it ok with you to put people in harm's way by making them sign a 
>citation against the offender?  If you see someone, obviously driving in an 
>erratic manner and you report that, do you sign a citation against that 
>driver?  No, you don't.  So why put a home owner in jeopardy with this NO?  
>Ask the lady on Taylor who's home smells like urine because of what she's 
>been through with the college fools!  Or the people around Vandal....they 
>had to put up with a YEAR of noise and mess because of the current NO which 
>had no more teeth than the watered-down-from-that-one-version you are 
>purposing.
>
>If a cop is dispatched to a neighborhood where noise can clearly be heard 
>any distance away from the residence from which it is coming, he/she should 
>be able to make out a citation to the offender without involving the names 
>and addresses of those who made the call reporting the noise.
>
>Just don't see why you don't get that.
>
>J  :]
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:18:43 -0800
> > From: garrettmc at verizon.net
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: [Vision2020] New NO info...
> >
> > No new NOers,
> >
> > I received an informative email from Linda Pall and we
> > may be on our way to finding reasonable language.  She
> > spoke with Judge Hamlett, who pointed her towards
> > Boise's Noise Ordinace:
> >
> > 
>http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/City_Clerk/PDF/CityCode/Title6/0620.pdf
> >
> > Basically, it make's this illegal:
> >
> > LOUD AMPLIFICATION DEVICE:
> > Any equipment designed or used for sound production,
> > reproduction, or amplification, including, but not
> > limited to any radio, television, phonograph, musical
> > instrument, stereo, tape player, compact disc player,
> > loud speaker, public  address  (P.A.)  system,  sound
> > amplifier,  or comparable sound broadcasting device.
> >
> >
> > if this occurs:
> >
> > A. is plainly audible within any place of residence
> > not the source of the sound, or,
> >
> > B. is plainly audible upon a public right-of-way or
> > street at a distance of one hundred (100) feet or more
> > from the source of such sound.
> >
> >
> > I could live with similar language of this ordinance.
> > For our NO, I'd like to add:
> >
> > 1 month warning period
> > Police can issue ticket without complaint between
> > hours of 10pm and 7am
> > Neighbors have to complain outside of the above time
> > frame
> >
> > I've added >>> BOLDED TEXT <<< to the Boise code to
> > clear this up:
> >
> >
> > Section 6-20-04 ENFORCEMENT
> >
> > A. Peace officer citation.  >>> DURING HOURS BETWEEN
> > 10 P.M. AND 7 A.M. <<< Any >>>MOSCOW<<< City peace
> > officer or person empowered to enforce this  provision
> > of the >>>MOSCOW<<< City Code is authorized to issue a
> > uniform citation upon his own observation of a
> > violation without the necessity of a citizen
> > complainant's signature on said citation >>AFTER FIRST
> > ISSUING 1 WARNING TO OFFENDER AND OFFENDER REPEATS
> > VIOLATION WITHIN 1 MONTH PERIOD <<<. By signing the
> > citation officer or person is certifying that  he has
> > reasonable grounds to believe that the person cited
> > committed the offense contrary to law.
> >
> > B. Citizen citation.   A uniform citation may also be
> > signed
> > by any citizen or person in whose presence an alleged
> > violation of this Ordinance occurred and be witnessed
> > by a
> > >>>MOSCOW<<< City peace officer or person empowered to
> > enforce
> > this provision of the >>>MOSCOW<<< City Code whose
> > name shall be
> > endorsed on the citation >>AFTER FIRST ISSUING 1
> > WARNING TO OFFENDER AND OFFENDER REPEATS VIOLATION
> > WITHIN 1 MONTH PERIOD <<<
> >
> >
> > That seems reasonable to me.  What do you think?
> >
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