[Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions

Thu Nov 1 18:29:21 PDT 2007

I can see how it came across that way. I didn't mean to crap on any supporter if it was interpreted that way, I apologize. I was simply making the point that no candidate has squeaky clean supporters and it doesn't make the candidate any less dedicated to the people if they don't. 

  I had no idea that she was arrested until I read her post. And I don't think she is a bad person for it either. Sorry I gave that impression to some of you. My point was, that just because someone doesn't have a clean past doesn't mean that they are bad awful people and the candidates should reject their participation in democratic process.

  I don't think we should be digging to who the contributors are as people at all unless they are felons or got the money in an illegal fashion. 

  Best,

  Donovan

Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
  Why would you start a post by asking - fairly enough - that people stick to 
issues and candidates and then finish by crapping on one candidate's 
supporters? Doesn't it make meaningless your first point, which was a good 
one?

Sunil

>From: Donovan Arnold 
>To: Tom Hansen , "'Tom Ivie'" , 
> "'Moscow Vision 2020'" 
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
>Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:04:32 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Mr. Hansen wrote:
>
> "Steed, Krauss, Carscallen, and GMA each accepted a $1,000 contribution 
>from “Palouse Rentals and Construction” (PRC), a company that has been 
>administratively shut down by Idaho’s Secretary of State for failure to 
>file annual reports."
>
> Are you suggesting that Walter Steed, Wayne Krauss, and Dan Carscallen 
>are all going to collectively sell out the best interests of Moscow 
>residents and do the bidding of a construction company, that doesn't exist, 
>because the owner gave them $1000?
> Seems like another pretty far fetched conspiracy theory to me. This is 
>almost as bad as the slanderous accusation made against a certain mayoral 
>candidate saying she was a drug dealer 20 or 30 years ago.
>
> Why don't we stick to the issues and candidates instead of trying to say 
>someone is guilty of inappropriate behavior because they got a financial 
>contribution from someone that may have done something wrong years ago in 
>another state? I am willing to bet that most financial contributors have 
>done something or another, or belonged to a company, that would reflect 
>badly on a candidate if someone would bother to dig deep enough. I for one 
>think that is going to too far to investigate the histories over every 
>contributor of every candidate. I bet anyone here a gift certificate to 
>Tri-State that Aaron Ament has at least one vocal supporter that has even 
>been to jail.
>
> Best,
>
> Donovan
>
>
>Tom Hansen wrote:
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> You guys simply DON”T GET IT.
>
> It is not about the amount of the contribution. It is all about where 
>that contribution originated.
>
> Steed, Krauss, Carscallen, and GMA each accepted a $1,000 contribution 
>from “Palouse Rentals and Construction” (PRC), a company that has been 
>administratively shut down by Idaho’s Secretary of State for failure to 
>file annual reports. PRC is headed by John Ficca, a Moscow 
>resident/businessman who has been permanently banned from ever bidding on 
>state projects within the state of Washington for reasons explained 
>numerous times earlier here on V2020.
>
> To take this a step further, there are numerous OBV (Owned But Vacant) 
>properties - the triangular lot on the south edge of town, the old Goodwill 
>building on Main Street, etc. etc. – all belonging to Mike Hoffman. You 
>remember him. He’s the guy that proudly announced (in the Moscow-Pullman 
>Daily News) that he is buying and selling property all over Moscow.
>
> And then there is the North Polk Extension “project”. Parties to that 
>little venture include Matthew Gray, Douglas Wilson, and Mike Hoffmann.
>
> Like I suggested earlier . . .
>
> “One can only wonder how Moscow will be divvied up . . . er . . . uh . 
>. . I mean rezoned come January if Palouse Rental and Construction should 
>gain three seats on our city council.”
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college 
>students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
>
>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Tom Ivie
>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:37 PM
>To: Moscow Vision 2020
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
>
>
> Nothing is ever certain in horse races or politics. All the money in 
>the world doesn't win an election. It does help though. Send your checks 
>to...
>
>Donovan Arnold wrote:
> I cannot wait to see who wins the third seat for the four year term. I 
>really think it looks like Tom Lamar, Wayne Krauss, and Dan Carscallen are 
>going to be fighting for the last two seats. I think Aaron Ament with a big 
>load a cash, incumbency, and being liberal in a liberal town is definitely 
>going to place in the top three. I am also certain that Walter Steed will 
>win.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Donovan
>
>Tom Ivie wrote:
>
> One person contributed $4,000 to a city election? What are we, Boise 
>or Seattle? or is that what they want us to be? What does one person have 
>to gain by providing so much money in a little race? like ours? Nothing 
>against the candidates though, good for them to have a big spending 
>benefactor.
>
>Tom Hansen wrote:
> >From Dale Courtney's blog at:
>
>http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2007/10/31/55739.aspx
>
>------------------------------------------
>
>"Hey, Big Spender
>
>I have a copy of all of the City Council Candidates' Campaign Financial
>Disclosure Reports.
>
>I'll post them shortly.
>
>Of interest is how much money the candidates have received.
>
>Aaron Ament: $9,475
>Tom Lamar: $8,817
>Walter Steed: $6,936
>Wayne Krauss: $6,135
>Dan Carscallen: $4,545
>Linda Pall: $3,910
>Evan Holmes: $1,992
>Bill London accuses the GMA candidates of being the "big spending" group.
>
>Seems like most of the money is being funneled to the liberal candidates.
>
>If money is any indication, the libs have their bets set on Ament.
>
>Heaven help us."
>
>------------------------------------------
>
>Although it is important to learn how much money has been contributed to
>each candidate, it is vitally more important to learn from where that money
>was contributed.
>
>Your attention is invited to the Financial Disclosure reports located at:
>
>http://www.MoscowElection2007.com
>
>A review of the Financial Disclosure Reports submitted by Dan Carscallen,
>Walter Steed, Wayne Krauss, and the Greater Moscow Alliance Political 
>Action
>Committee reflects contributions in the amount of $1,000 to each of the
>aforementioned by Palouse Rental and Construction.
>
>Who is Palouse Rental and Construction you ask?
>
>As mentioned earlier by Mark Solomon in an earlier posting at:
>
>http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2007-October/049113.html
>
>"As I'm always interested in who is contributing big $$ in elections, I
>looked it up and saw Palouse Rentals and Construction had donated $1000 to
>GMA. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I did not know that name. A quick
>search on the Sec'y of State website gives up John Ficca as the president 
>of
>the corporation, which, by the way, has been administratively dissolved by
>the Sec'y of State for failure to file annual reports since 2004."
>
>It appears that this defunct company is/was headed by John Ficca, who back
>in 2000 . . .
>
>http://www.lni.wa.gov/news/2000/pr000214a.asp
>
>"TUMWATER - An Idaho employer must pay more than $95,000 in unpaid wages to
>12 current and former employees in the Spokane area according to a
>settlement agreement announced today by the Department of Labor and
>Industries.
>
>John Ficca, of Moscow, Idaho, owner of Art's Electric, Inc., also has been
>permanently prohibited from bidding on or performing work on future public
>works projects in Washington. Ficca also does business as Palouse Country
>Electric and U Cities Contracting."
>
>It appears that perhaps the state of Idaho may be interested in the 
>business
>posture of "Palouse Rental and Construction" as it makes political
>contributions to a select few (Steed, Krauss, and Carscallen) of Moscow's
>city council candidates.
>
>One can only wonder how Moscow will be divvied up . . . er . . . uh . . . I
>mean rezoned come January if Palouse Rental and Construction should gain
>three seats on our city council.
>
>Things that make you go . . .
>
>Hmmm.
>
>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
>students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
>
>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>
>
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