[Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions

Thu Nov 1 22:22:03 PDT 2007

I'll respond below each paragraph:

>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
>Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I can see how it came across that way. I didn't mean to crap on any 
>supporter if it was interpreted that way, I apologize. I was simply making 
>the point that no candidate has squeaky clean supporters and it doesn't 
>make the candidate any less dedicated to the people if they don't.

I agree with what you're saying here.
>
>   I had no idea that she was arrested until I read her post. And I don't 
>think she is a bad person for it either. Sorry I gave that impression to 
>some of you. My point was, that just because someone doesn't have a clean 
>past doesn't mean that they are bad awful people and the candidates should 
>reject their participation in democratic process.

I don't know who you were referring to, and I'm not asking; that wasn't my 
point, but I agree with the sentiment in the last sentence.
>
>   I don't think we should be digging to who the contributors are as people 
>at all unless they are felons or got the money in an illegal fashion.

I don't care if felons contribute to people they support, but I can see that 
others would.  I agree with the last clause about obtaining money illegally.

Sunil
>
>
>   Best,
>
>   Donovan
>
>Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   Why would you start a post by asking - fairly enough - that people stick 
>to
>issues and candidates and then finish by crapping on one candidate's
>supporters? Doesn't it make meaningless your first point, which was a good
>one?
>
>Sunil
>
>
> >From: Donovan Arnold
> >To: Tom Hansen , "'Tom Ivie'" ,
> > "'Moscow Vision 2020'"
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
> >Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:04:32 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Mr. Hansen wrote:
> >
> > "Steed, Krauss, Carscallen, and GMA each accepted a $1,000 contribution
> >from “Palouse Rentals and Construction” (PRC), a company that has been
> >administratively shut down by Idaho’s Secretary of State for failure to
> >file annual reports."
> >
> > Are you suggesting that Walter Steed, Wayne Krauss, and Dan Carscallen
> >are all going to collectively sell out the best interests of Moscow
> >residents and do the bidding of a construction company, that doesn't 
>exist,
> >because the owner gave them $1000?
> > Seems like another pretty far fetched conspiracy theory to me. This is
> >almost as bad as the slanderous accusation made against a certain mayoral
> >candidate saying she was a drug dealer 20 or 30 years ago.
> >
> > Why don't we stick to the issues and candidates instead of trying to say
> >someone is guilty of inappropriate behavior because they got a financial
> >contribution from someone that may have done something wrong years ago in
> >another state? I am willing to bet that most financial contributors have
> >done something or another, or belonged to a company, that would reflect
> >badly on a candidate if someone would bother to dig deep enough. I for 
>one
> >think that is going to too far to investigate the histories over every
> >contributor of every candidate. I bet anyone here a gift certificate to
> >Tri-State that Aaron Ament has at least one vocal supporter that has even
> >been to jail.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Donovan
> >
> >
> >Tom Hansen wrote:
> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:*
> >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape
> >{behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
> > You guys simply DON”T GET IT.
> >
> > It is not about the amount of the contribution. It is all about where
> >that contribution originated.
> >
> > Steed, Krauss, Carscallen, and GMA each accepted a $1,000 contribution
> >from “Palouse Rentals and Construction” (PRC), a company that has been
> >administratively shut down by Idaho’s Secretary of State for failure to
> >file annual reports. PRC is headed by John Ficca, a Moscow
> >resident/businessman who has been permanently banned from ever bidding on
> >state projects within the state of Washington for reasons explained
> >numerous times earlier here on V2020.
> >
> > To take this a step further, there are numerous OBV (Owned But Vacant)
> >properties - the triangular lot on the south edge of town, the old 
>Goodwill
> >building on Main Street, etc. etc. – all belonging to Mike Hoffman. You
> >remember him. He’s the guy that proudly announced (in the Moscow-Pullman
> >Daily News) that he is buying and selling property all over Moscow.
> >
> > And then there is the North Polk Extension “project”. Parties to that
> >little venture include Matthew Gray, Douglas Wilson, and Mike Hoffmann.
> >
> > Like I suggested earlier . . .
> >
> > “One can only wonder how Moscow will be divvied up . . . er . . . uh .
> >. . I mean rezoned come January if Palouse Rental and Construction should
> >gain three seats on our city council.”
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >
> >Tom Hansen
> >Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
> >students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> >
> >- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> >[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Tom Ivie
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:37 PM
> >To: Moscow Vision 2020
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
> >
> >
> > Nothing is ever certain in horse races or politics. All the money in
> >the world doesn't win an election. It does help though. Send your checks
> >to...
> >
> >Donovan Arnold wrote:
> > I cannot wait to see who wins the third seat for the four year term. I
> >really think it looks like Tom Lamar, Wayne Krauss, and Dan Carscallen 
>are
> >going to be fighting for the last two seats. I think Aaron Ament with a 
>big
> >load a cash, incumbency, and being liberal in a liberal town is 
>definitely
> >going to place in the top three. I am also certain that Walter Steed will
> >win.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> >
> >
> > Donovan
> >
> >Tom Ivie wrote:
> >
> > One person contributed $4,000 to a city election? What are we, Boise
> >or Seattle? or is that what they want us to be? What does one person have
> >to gain by providing so much money in a little race? like ours? Nothing
> >against the candidates though, good for them to have a big spending
> >benefactor.
> >
> >Tom Hansen wrote:
> > >From Dale Courtney's blog at:
> >
> >http://right-mind.us/blogs/blog_0/archive/2007/10/31/55739.aspx
> >
> >------------------------------------------
> >
> >"Hey, Big Spender
> >
> >I have a copy of all of the City Council Candidates' Campaign Financial
> >Disclosure Reports.
> >
> >I'll post them shortly.
> >
> >Of interest is how much money the candidates have received.
> >
> >Aaron Ament: $9,475
> >Tom Lamar: $8,817
> >Walter Steed: $6,936
> >Wayne Krauss: $6,135
> >Dan Carscallen: $4,545
> >Linda Pall: $3,910
> >Evan Holmes: $1,992
> >Bill London accuses the GMA candidates of being the "big spending" group.
> >
> >Seems like most of the money is being funneled to the liberal candidates.
> >
> >If money is any indication, the libs have their bets set on Ament.
> >
> >Heaven help us."
> >
> >------------------------------------------
> >
> >Although it is important to learn how much money has been contributed to
> >each candidate, it is vitally more important to learn from where that 
>money
> >was contributed.
> >
> >Your attention is invited to the Financial Disclosure reports located at:
> >
> >http://www.MoscowElection2007.com
> >
> >A review of the Financial Disclosure Reports submitted by Dan Carscallen,
> >Walter Steed, Wayne Krauss, and the Greater Moscow Alliance Political
> >Action
> >Committee reflects contributions in the amount of $1,000 to each of the
> >aforementioned by Palouse Rental and Construction.
> >
> >Who is Palouse Rental and Construction you ask?
> >
> >As mentioned earlier by Mark Solomon in an earlier posting at:
> >
> >http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2007-October/049113.html
> >
> >"As I'm always interested in who is contributing big $$ in elections, I
> >looked it up and saw Palouse Rentals and Construction had donated $1000 
>to
> >GMA. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I did not know that name. A 
>quick
> >search on the Sec'y of State website gives up John Ficca as the president
> >of
> >the corporation, which, by the way, has been administratively dissolved 
>by
> >the Sec'y of State for failure to file annual reports since 2004."
> >
> >It appears that this defunct company is/was headed by John Ficca, who 
>back
> >in 2000 . . .
> >
> >http://www.lni.wa.gov/news/2000/pr000214a.asp
> >
> >"TUMWATER - An Idaho employer must pay more than $95,000 in unpaid wages 
>to
> >12 current and former employees in the Spokane area according to a
> >settlement agreement announced today by the Department of Labor and
> >Industries.
> >
> >John Ficca, of Moscow, Idaho, owner of Art's Electric, Inc., also has 
>been
> >permanently prohibited from bidding on or performing work on future 
>public
> >works projects in Washington. Ficca also does business as Palouse Country
> >Electric and U Cities Contracting."
> >
> >It appears that perhaps the state of Idaho may be interested in the
> >business
> >posture of "Palouse Rental and Construction" as it makes political
> >contributions to a select few (Steed, Krauss, and Carscallen) of Moscow's
> >city council candidates.
> >
> >One can only wonder how Moscow will be divvied up . . . er . . . uh . . . 
>I
> >mean rezoned come January if Palouse Rental and Construction should gain
> >three seats on our city council.
> >
> >Things that make you go . . .
> >
> >Hmmm.
> >
> >Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >
> >Tom Hansen
> >Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
> >students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> >
> >- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
> >
> >
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