[Vision2020] shooter identity . . . And what he was shooting

[Matt Decker]

Frank,

The only 7.62 round our army uses today is in the 240G Machine gun or 
sometimes in a m14 sniper rifle. The most common round we use is the high 
velocity 5.56 or .223, used by our m-16a2 service rifle.

I do agree that the Ak is argueably the best rifle out there though.

Matt


>From: "Frank" <theceo at optonline.net>
>To: "Dan Carscallen" <areaman at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] shooter identity . . . And what he was shooting
>Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:11:06 -0400
>
>As an expert I can speak to this and you're still wrong. The Russian 
>version
>AK-47 is most likely the best weapon in the world today. The US Army gave 
>up
>the M1 Grande which used the 308 round to go to the M14 in about 1962 which
>used the 7.62x39 round. The difference is the 7.62x39 is a high velocity
>round. If you shoot a 308 round through a 55 gal barrel of water it just
>punches through to the other side. Then if you take a 7.62x39 round and
>shoot it at the barrel and it explodes. The speed is so fast that 
>hydraulics
>come into play. You can't compress water so the force blows up the barrel
>before it can exit the other side. Now think what that does to a person who
>is 90 percent water?  The round does a lot of damage before it exits the
>body.  That is still the round our army uses today. Now which one do you
>think has the power and inflicts the most damage?  In Nam the Russian AK 47
>used a 6.2x54 round. If the communist fighter ran out of ammunition he 
>could
>find a dead GI and take his ammunition and use it in his rifle because the
>x39 was smaller than the x54 and would chamber. However it would not work
>the other way because the x54 was too big to chamber in a M16. If you are
>really this interested in guns you should go see your army recruiter he can
>sign you up for a fore year course.
>
>THECEO
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On
>Behalf Of Dan Carscallen
>Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:12 PM
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] shooter identity . . . And what he was shooting
>
>Vizzz peeps,
>
>After watching the press conference, some of the events of Saturday
>night/Sunday morning have become more clear.
>
>With the initial reports of the shooter using an SKS in the incident, I
>was a little confused and concerned as to how it was done, as the
>7.62x39mm cartridge used in that rifle did not seem powerful enough to
>have done some of the damage that was said to be inflicted.  Now, after
>hearing that the shooter also had an M1A, which is a .308 caliber (a
>popular hunting caliber), I can understand a little better since this is
>a significantly more powerful round than the 7.62X39 by almost 1/3.
>This would also explain a bit more the difference in sound between the
>shots fired earlier and those fired later.
>
>Of course, neither of these calibers could be stopped by a "bulletproof"
>vest.
>
>I'm sure Tom Hansen can speak to this, as he's probably had some
>experience with the M14 (the military version of the M1A) and maybe even
>some time with an AK47 during his time in Germany.
>
>DC
>
>
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