[Vision2020] Steven J. Sitler

Sat May 12 10:55:00 PDT 2007

Mr. Hansen,

  I am sure that Mr. Schwaller and most other V2020 readers are aware that you were attempting to challenge Mr. Wilson to be accountable for his words. However, that desire, and your hatred should not include, joking or not, a public challenge that would place a particular identifiable child in great harm from a sex offender. 

  I don't think it is funny, not one bit. It is not acceptable to me to joke about a child being harmed in any matter. Your hatred of Doug Wilson has truly clouded your judgment to the point you find this behavior acceptable. This is shocking, because I know if someone suggested doing such a harmful thing to one of your loved ones you would be threatening legal action at this point.

  Please think about it for a moment--and retract you approval of this suggestion as being acceptable, even as a joke, or to prove any point against Mr. Wilson. Does your thirst and quest for his humiliation run so deep you think it OK to joke about putting children in harm's way?--Please rethink your attitude. 

  Best,

  Donovan 

Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
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  For the sake of setting the record (as well as my intentions) straight and as my final commentary concerning your response, the purpose behind my support for Wayne’ suggestion was solely to encourage Doug Wilson to stand behind his words (an act I have yet to experience from him).

  Having said that, I apologize for your failure in understanding my intention.  Perhaps the theme of my previous dozen or so postings was insufficiently clear to you.

  If you find my apology lacking in any attribute, so be it.  We are all big boys and girls. 

  Tom Hansen
  Moscow, Idaho
      “Uh, how about a 1-strike law. Death doesn't seem too extreme for a Level-3 sex offender.”

- Dale “Comb-Over” Courtney (August 3, 2005)

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  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Schwaller
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:07 AM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Steven J. Sitler

Thank you Ms Lund for also seeing the heinous fallacy of Mr. Fox's post.  As I pointed out in a previous post, Mr Hansen also agreed with Mr Fox, and 
  I think both need to be called on the carpet for their stand - be it sarcastic or not, and both should apologize to the viewers and contributors of this site.

  I would note that even Mr Sitler was responsible enough to stand in open court and apologize for his actions.  Yes, it may very well have been self serving of him 
  to do so, but nonetheless he did apologize.  As of this post, I don't see where neither Mr Fox nor Mr Hansen has done so.

  I would say again, to both of you "Shame on you."  And shame on any others who even for a minute thought the suggestion of Mr Sitler boarding with Mr Wilson's grandchildren 
  "an excellent suggestion."

  Ms Lund writes "I don't know that I have expressed this well . . ."

  Ms Lund, no one could have expressed it better.

  Thank you

  Schwaller

  On 5/11/07, Saundra Lund <sslund at 

roadrunner.com> wrote:

  Hi Wayne,

  OK, I get the sarcasm in your post.

  However, your post ***really*** bothers me, so I'm going to speak up.

  I just don't think it EVER appropriate to suggest putting children in harm's

  way just to prove a point, sarcasm or not.

  The children you reference have done NOTHING to deserve such treatment, and
  it is deeply offensive to me that you bring the these precious beings up to
  make a point.  As probably most here know, I think children deserve to be

  completely OFF LIMITS as "targets" here on the Viz, and your post is one of
  the most offensive I've read here.  The children to whom you refer -- along
  with every single child in our community -- are our future, and to suggest

  deliberately putting these innocents in harm's way is indefensible, IMHO.

  Just for the record, I'll disclose that except for the newest addition, I've
  met & spent time with the truly delightful children you've dragged into

  this.  But, even if I hadn't, I'd be just as . . .  disgusted.

  Please, please, PLEASE LEAVE individual CHILDREN OUT of this discussion, a
  discussion we wouldn't be having were it not for the fact that Steven J.

  Sitler, a serial child predator who has already victimized far too many
  children in this country, came to our community.

  Discuss Sitler; discuss his crimes; discuss the failure (IMHO) of the
  judicial system; discuss the failure of our newspapers; discuss why Sitler

  came here; discuss the failure of Christ Church to warn our community once
  his crimes were known by the church hierarchy; discuss the failure of the
  Christ Church community warn the rest of us once they knew; discuss the

  problem of child sexual abuse in general or in our community, region, state,
  nation, world.

  I don't know that I've expressed this well, but your post crosses a line for
  me, Wayne . . . a line I hope to never again see crossed here on V2020.

  Some, no doubt, will ask the trite question, "By whose standards?!?"

  My response to those who will lack the courage to ask the question here is,
  "If you have to ask that question about this subject, you are already a lost

  soul for whom I'll pray."

  Saundra Lund
  Moscow, ID

  The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
  nothing.
  - Edmund Burke

    On 5/12/07, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
  Steven James Sitler is now listed (and registered) as a sex offender in the
state of Idaho.

http://isp.state.id.us/so_viewer/showSO.do?nic=SX06787 

As such I will not be distributing posters detailing his conviction,
sentence, and subsequent release as a sex offender.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"Uh, how about a 1-strike law. Death doesn't seem too extreme for a Level-3 
sex offender."

- Dale "Comb-Over" Courtney (August 3, 2005)

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