[Vision2020] Taxpayer Rights

[Donovan Arnold]

Keely Wrote:
   
  "It takes a special kind of hubris, a terrific form of arrogance, to propose an analogy that attempts to equate slavery and the civil disobedience -- revolt -- required to end it, and the burdens of being a white guy who thinks he pays too much in taxes."
  
 
  It takes a special kind of ignorance to get that from what I wrote. I wasn't comparing slavery and property taxes as equal injustices, but as an unarguable demonstration of how a majority popular vote can violate people's rights, Keely. You need to read what I said and let it absorb before reacting on such an emotional level. I do recognize the difference in severity of the two injustices.
   
  I do find your remarks disturbing for their racist and sexist content. If you truly believe that discrimination and mistreatment is limited only to people of color or the female gender I would say all you have to do is visit your county funded nursing homes, which are full of old white fat guys that paid their taxes to MSD and got screwed in the end, but unfortunately you voted them away in favor of more funding for the MSD Administration, so I guess you can keep your ignorant belief. 
   
  Best,
   
  Donovan
   
  
keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
      P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    It takes a special kind of hubris, a terrific form of arrogance, to propose an analogy that attempts to equate slavery and the civil disobedience -- revolt -- required to end it, and the burdens of being a white guy who thinks he pays too much in taxes.

keely

    
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  Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 21:54:24 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Taxpayer Rights

  Hansen writes:
   
  "If limits were to be imposed against the “democratic majority”, how would it be decided who imposes these limitations?"
   
  How about a social contract (Constitution) and Judicial Branch that limits what the majority can force the minority to do, unalienable rights that cannot be voted away, even by a 9/10 majority? In cases of taxes, how about a limit of 50% of one's total earned wealth? How about an alternative MAXIMUM taxed limit so you got something left?
   
  "Nobody has the right to hand-pick which laws they will abide by and which laws (or zoning codes) they will ignore, not even the minority."
   
  They don't? So a slave has no right to freedom if the majority says he/she does not? You have no right to oppose the will of the majority that may wish to euthanize your wife or mother? How about infanticide, murder, or torture of animals? Are there no moral or ethical values which you see as being above the law written by humans?
   
  Slavery in your view then, was right, and slaves had no right to object or flee their society created social roles handed to them by the vote of the majority?
   
  Interesting perspective, please elaborate Hansen.
   
  Best,
   
  Donovan
   
  

Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
      Arnold stated:
   
  “Am I wrong to think that there should be some limits placed on what the democratic majority can do to the minority taxpayer that just feels completely robbed and stripped of the fruits of their hard labor?”
   
  If limits were to be imposed against the “democratic majority”, how would it be decided who imposes these limitations?
   
  It is really very, very simple.  The very foundation of our government is utilitarian in concept, the belief that most of the people know what is best for most of the people most of the time – rule by majority.
   
  Nobody has the right to hand-pick which laws they will abide by and which laws (or zoning codes) they will ignore, not even the minority.
   
  Seeya round town, Moscow.
   
  Tom Hansen
  Moscow, Idaho
   
  "The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it."

- Abbie Hoffman 

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