[Vision2020] Taxpayer Rights

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri May 11 10:56:45 PDT 2007


Nope...it just takes a fool willing to be brainwashed by the likes of 
Dougie-boy!  Seems like Doug F fits all the criteria - along with about 500 
other idiots that don't do a whole lot of thinking for themselves.


J  :]





>From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>To: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,        Tom 
>Hansen<thansen at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Taxpayer Rights
>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 07:43:19 -0700
>
>
>It takes a special kind of hubris, a terrific form of arrogance, to propose 
>an analogy that attempts to equate slavery and the civil disobedience -- 
>revolt -- required to end it, and the burdens of being a white guy who 
>thinks he pays too much in taxes.keelyDate: Thu, 10 May 2007 21:54:24 
>-0700From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.comTo: thansen at moscow.com; 
>vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] Taxpayer RightsHansen 
>writes:     "If limits were to be imposed against the “democratic 
>majority”, how would it be decided who imposes these limitations?"     How 
>about a social contract (Constitution) and Judicial Branch that limits what 
>the majority can force the minority to do, unalienable rights that cannot 
>be voted away, even by a 9/10 majority? In cases of taxes, how about a 
>limit of 50% of one's total earned wealth? How about an alternative MAXIMUM 
>taxed limit so you got something left?     "Nobody has the right to 
>hand-pick which laws they will abide by and which laws (or zoning codes) 
>they will ignore, not even the minority."     They don't? So a slave has no 
>right to freedom if the majority says he/she does not? You have no right to 
>oppose the will of the majority that may wish to euthanize your wife or 
>mother? How about infanticide, murder, or torture of animals?
>  Are there no moral or ethical values which you see as being above the law 
>written by humans?     Slavery in your view then, was right, and slaves had 
>no right to object or flee their society created social roles handed to 
>them by the vote of the majority?     Interesting perspective, please 
>elaborate Hansen.     Best,     Donovan     Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> 
>wrote:                Arnold stated:     “Am I wrong to think that there 
>should be some limits placed on what the democratic majority can do to the 
>minority taxpayer that just feels completely
>  robbed and stripped of the fruits of their hard labor?”     If limits 
>were to be imposed against the “democratic majority”, how would it be 
>decided who imposes these limitations?     It is really very, very simple.  
>The very foundation of our government is utilitarian in concept, the belief 
>that most of the people know what is best for most of the people most of 
>the
>  time – rule by majority.     Nobody has the right to hand-pick which laws 
>they will abide by and which laws (or zoning codes) they will ignore, not 
>even the minority.     Seeya round town, Moscow.     Tom Hansen  Moscow, 
>Idaho     "The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it."- 
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