[Vision2020] Give Steven Sitler a Chance

Glenn Schwaller vpschwaller at gmail.com
Fri May 11 16:04:03 PDT 2007


At the risk of sounding like a defender of Steven Sitler / Doug Wilson /
Christ Church / lump-em together sex-crime offenders, your idea is, ummmmm
what's the word . . .oh yes - ludicrous.  Yes yes, I understand the
reasoning behind your suggestion, but even an off-the-cuff, tongue-in-cheek,
sarcastic remark should be thought out a bit more, and at least acknowledge
there is some understanding of the facts of the case, and how the law,
treatment, and monitoring progress after release from jail function to
attempt to keep society safe.

"Perhaps we should give Cultmaster Douglas Wilson and Steven Sitler a
chance  to prove that Sitler has been cured of his habit of debauching
children."

Although this is a minor point, I find slurs and namecalling offensive, and
I believe it serve only to detract from the argument being made.
Unfortunately it seems to be the modus operandi on this site, and seemingly
by those residents who profess equality, civility, and tolerance.  Mr Sitler
will probably never be "cured" - most people suffering from a deviancy or
"addiction" (not my word - I believe that terms such as sex addiction or
food addiction are inaccurate and without meaning, and those who use them
don't understand the meaning of "addiction" - but that is another topic)
cannot be "cured."  The best one can hope is that the individual learns what
triggers the desire, and has learned how to effectively use the thought
processing and behavioral modification tools they have been given in
therapy  to remove themselves from the situation and reduce the desires and
impulses.  Think "reformed alcoholic or drug user" who is presented with a
chance do drink or get high.  Most are never "cured" in the sense they can
ever drink or use drugs again without falling into the destructive spiral of
abuse.  So the idea that Mr Sitler has been cured by his year in jail and
therapy is rather inaccurate.

"Wilson could petition the court to allow Sitler to  board at his daughter's
and son-in-law's (the Merkle's) home with their horde of  children for the
next two or three years."

Yes yes I understand the point you are trying to make, but I think this
reflects your lack of understanding of the situation for one, and even
worse, you (and Mr Hansen who thinks this is "An excellent suggestion
Wayne") are effectively lobbying for Mr Sitler to be placed in the very
situation that will likely trigger a re-offense, meaning you would like to
place children at risk to prove your point!!  And Mr Sitler is the monster
here?!?!?!

Of lesser importance, but still germane to the point (that being education
and understanding) such an "arrangement" would be in violation of Mr
Sitler's probation, which sort of make the entire argument moot.

"he (Doug Wilson) really doesn't have confidence in the elimination
of  Sitler's propensity to interfere with children"

See the above discussion on "cure" and substitute "elimination of
propensity" where applicable.

"it would sure shut us skeptics up"

It would, would it . .  .

"I am sure there are many in the area  who would attend and give their full
support to this decisive,  proof-of-the-pudding test of both Sitler's cure
and Wilson's honesty."

Assuming for arguments sake that Mr Wilson could in fact approach the court
with such a motion, I'm afraid I won't be able to attend to support your
desire to place children at risk so you can point fingers and smugly say "I
told you so."  Shame on you.  I also believe Doug Wilson is fully aware that
Mr Sitler is "incurable", as is the court since they placed him on probation
for the rest of his life - so no unsupervised contact with minors.  And I
must admit I don't see the connection between Mr Wilson "winning" this
motion and his honesty.

And to Mr Hansen -  "Now, if you will excuse me, I have some flyers to
design for Monday."

I assume you have been very, very careful in planning this, but you may want
to put some disclaimers on your flyers to avoid being perceived as a
harasser or intimidator, or driving anyone else to harass or intimidate.
>From the Idaho Code:

"WARNING: This information is made available for the purpose of protecting
the public. It is not to be used for the purpose of harassing or
intimidating anyone. A person who uses registry information to commit a
criminal act against another person is subject to arrest and prosecution
under Section 18-8326, Idaho Code.

Penalties for Misuse of Registry Information (Vigilantism)  It is the
Legislature's intent that the sex offender registration program is a public
safety program, not a punitive or correctional program. Any person who uses
information from the registry to harm a registered sex offender commits a
crime and is guilty of a misdemeanor, in addition to any other punishment
for any associated crime(s)."

Schwaller

"The bigger they are, the harder they fall on you"
     Mark Knopfler





On 5/11/07, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>  Perhaps we should give Cultmaster Douglas Wilson and Steven Sitler a
> chance to prove that Sitler has been cured of his habit of debauching
> children.
>
> Since Wilson is so convinced and has managed to convince the court that
> Sitler is not a risk to re-offend -- thanks in part to Wilson powerful
> pastoral and sexual deviancy "counseling", here a plan that will prove it to
> all us unworthy doubters once and for all:
>
> Wilson could petition the court to allow Sitler to board at his daughter's
> and son-in-law's (the Merkle's) home with their horde of children for the
> next two or three years.
>
> If Wilson is willing to do this, it would sure shut us skeptics up, be a
> major coup for him, and be a demonstration of his self-acclaimed pastoral
> and sexual deviancy "counseling" prowess.
>
> If Wilson is not willing to do this, then we will conclude that he really
> doesn't have confidence in the elimination of Sitler's propensity to
> interfere with children.  If he is not willing to do this, then we will
> conclude that Wilson is not afraid to risk the community's children, but is
> afraid to risk his own grandchildren.
>
> Please let me know when the very accomplished Wilson schedules a court
> hearing to execute the above plan.  I am sure there are many in the area who
> would attend and give their full support to this decisive,
> proof-of-the-pudding test of both Sitler's cure and Wilson's honesty.
>
>
> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
> deco at moscow.com
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