[Vision2020] Justice turned upside down ( corrected)

[lfalen]

Tom
Why are you so hostile. I was not accusing you of anything. I thought I was agreeing with you.  I wonder if there is any point is trying to be nice to you. I am sorry if you took offense. I did not realize what you posted was in Afghanistan. I should have looked closer.

Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 12:26:37 -0700
To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Justice turned upside down ( corrected)

> I seriously doubt that it is the same incident, Mr. Falen.
> 
> This one took place in a UH-1 utility helicopter in Kabul, Afghanistan.
> 
> The incident you accuse me of posting apparently took place on the ground
> somewhere in Iraq.
> 
> Realizing that I will not receive an apology from you, concerning your
> accusation, . . .
> 
> Enough said.
> 
> Tom "Who knows that Iraq and Afghanistan are not one in the same" Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> 
> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lfalen [mailto:lfalen at turbonet.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 12:12 PM
> To: Tom Hansen; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Justice turned upside down ( corrected)
> 
> Tom
> This is what I was referring to. I have been hearing about this from several
> other sources over the last month. From what I have heard some solders were
> being fired upon from a house. They returned fire. Some non-combatants in
> the house were killed. A reporter from Newsweek interviewed some of the
> local people. He was told that several non-combatants were murdered. This
> was the bases for the convictions. This may be or not be the the same
> incident.
> 
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Tom Hansen" thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 11:42:16 -0700
> To: "'lfalen'" lfalen at turbonet.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Justice turned upside down ( corrected)
> 
> > Mr. Falen stated:
> > 
> > "Tom posted yesterday that some GI's that were doing their job in Iraq
> were
> > convicted of kill several Iraqi civilians."
> > 
> > HUH?!?!
> > 
> > Where is this posting, Mr. Falen?
> > 
> > The closest posting I can find (over the past 30 days) is:
> > 
> > "Kabul Case Smalls Rotten"
> > http://mailman.fsr.com/pipermail/vision2020/2007-April/043792.html
> > 
> > This article was copied and pasted from the Air Force Times.  It concerns
> > "blowing the whistle" on what is perceived to be a government cover-up in
> > Kabul (that's in Afghanistan).
> > 
> > It is re-pasted below:
> > 
> > -------------------
> > 
> > Kabul case smells rotten
> > 
> > Something definitely is fishy about the case against Lt. Cols. Gary Brown
> > and Christopher Hall ["Officers rebuked for Kabul clash," April 16]. They
> > pull their guns in a war zone to protect themselves in a potentially
> violent
> > incident, and they end up getting fragged by their own service. There are
> > allegations of bribing witnesses, falsifying legal documents and forging a
> > videotape of the incident in an effort to secure a conviction against two
> > distinguished officers.
> > 
> > The larger issue is the example this sets for all Air Force members. Is
> the
> > Air Force going to issue a lawyer to everyone who gets sent to Central
> > Command's area of responsibility? Will this lawyer advise service members
> > when they can pull their guns, aim them and fire? Why would any Air Force
> > member volunteer to serve in the AOR if this is the support he can expect
> to
> > receive from his superior officers? Unless there's more to the story than
> > has been reported, the Air Force owes these officers an apology and a
> > commendation.
> > 
> > Lt. Col. Eric Newhouse
> > McChord Air Force Base, Wash.
> > 
> > -------------------
> > 
> > You will notice several things.
> > 
> > 1)  It is copied and pasted from the "Letters" section of the Air Force
> > Times.  As such, they are not my words, but the words of Lt. Col. Eric
> > Newhouse.
> > 
> > 2)  This incident occurred in Kabul Afghanistan (not Iraq).
> > 
> > 3)  The letter concerns allegations of deaths by friendly fire, not deaths
> > of any local civilians.
> > 
> > I realize that I am not Shirley Ringo and tomorrow is not election day,
> but
> > certainly, Mr. Falen, you should be able to do better than that,
> especially
> > if you are considering running again for public office.
> > 
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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