[Vision2020] And Justice for All
Sue Hovey
suehovey at moscow.com
Mon Jun 11 12:09:00 PDT 2007
I know, I thought it just might be the overture to an impecatory payer--sort
of a slow lead in.....
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: <heirdoug at netscape.net>
To: <suehovey at moscow.com>; <ophite at gmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; <idahotom at hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Justice for All
> Sue,
>
> Thanks for writing back. The Song in question is not of an imprecatory
> nature, but more of a Johnathon Edwards' "sinners in the hand of an angry
> God" flavor. I would call it evangelistic in it's tenor. For imprecatory
> types of songs you really need to sing from the Psalms.
>
> Jesus quoted from Psalm 69:4 in John 15:25.
>
> Here is the whole Psalm so you don't have to look it up:
> Psalm 69
>
> A Cry of Distress
> To the chief Musician upon Shoshan'nim, A Psalm of David.
>
> 1 Save me, O God; for the waters are come in unto my soul.
>
> 2 I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep
> waters, where the floods overflow me.
>
> 3 I am weary of my crying: my throat is dried: mine eyes fail while I wait
> for my God.
>
> 4 They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine head:
> they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are mighty:
> then I restored that which I took not away.
>
> 5 O God, thou knowest my foolishness; and my sins are not hid from thee.
>
> 6 Let not them that wait on thee, O Lord GOD of hosts, be ashamed for my
> sake: let not those that seek thee be confounded for my sake, O God of
> Israel.
>
> 7 Because for thy sake I have borne reproach; shame hath covered my face.
>
> 8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's
> children.
>
> 9 For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them
> that reproached thee are fallen upon me.
>
> 10 When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my
> reproach.
>
> 11 I made sackcloth also my garment; and I became a proverb to them.
>
> 12 They that sit in the gate speak against me; and I was the song of the
> drunkards.
>
> 13 But as for me, my prayer is unto thee, O LORD, in an acceptable time:
> O God, in the multitude of thy mercy hear me, in the truth of thy
> salvation.
>
> 14 Deliver me out of the mire, and let me not sink: let me be delivered
> from them that hate me, and out of the deep waters.
>
> 15 Let not the waterflood overflow me, neither let the deep swallow me up,
> and let not the pit shut her mouth upon me.
>
> 16 Hear me, O LORD; for thy loving-kindness is good: turn unto me
> according to the multitude of thy tender mercies.
>
> 17 And hide not thy face from thy servant; for I am in trouble: hear me
> speedily.
>
> 18 Draw nigh unto my soul, and redeem it: deliver me because of mine
> enemies.
>
> 19 Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonor: mine
> adversaries are all before thee.
>
> 20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked
> for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found
> none.
>
> 21 They gave me also gall for my meat;and in my thirst they gave me
> vinegar to drink.
>
> 22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have
> been for their welfare, let it become a trap.
>
> 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their loins
> continually to shake.
>
> 24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger take
> hold of them.
>
> 25 Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their tents.
> Acts 1.20
>
> 26 For they persecute him whom thou hast smitten; and they talk to the
> grief of those whom thou hast wounded.
>
> 27 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy
> righteousness.
>
> 28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written
> with the righteous.
>
> 29 But I am poor and sorrowful: let thy salvation, O God, set me up on
> high.
>
> 30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with
> thanksgiving.
>
> 31 This also shall please the LORD better than an ox or bullock that hath
> horns and hoofs.
>
> 32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that
> seek God.
>
> 33 For the LORD heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.
>
> 34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing that
> moveth therein.
>
> 35 For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they
> may dwell there, and have it in possession.
>
> 36 The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love his
> name shall dwell therein.
>
>
>
> Another psalm that may sound like the Johnny Cash song in question would
> be Psalm 37
>
> Again here it is so that you won't have to look
>
> The Insecurity of the Wicked A Psalm of David.
>
> 1 Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against
> the workers of iniquity.
>
> 2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green
> herb.
>
> 3 Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and
> verily thou shalt be fed.
>
> 4 Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of
> thine heart.
>
> 5 Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it
> to pass.
>
> 6 And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy
> judgment as the noonday.
>
> 7 Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because
> of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked
> devices to pass.
>
> 8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do
> evil.
>
> 9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they
> shall inherit the earth.
>
> 10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt
> diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
>
> 11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; Mt. 5.5 and shall delight
> themselves in the abundance of peace.
>
> 12 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his
> teeth.
>
> 13 The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
>
> 14 The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast
> down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.
>
> 15 Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be
> broken.
>
> 16 A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many
> wicked.
>
> 17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the
> righteous.
>
> 18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall
> be for ever.
>
> 19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine
> they shall be satisfied.
>
> 20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as
> the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
>
> 21 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous showeth
> mercy, and giveth.
>
> 22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be
> cursed of him shall be cut off.
>
> 23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in
> his way.
>
> 24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD
> upholdeth him with his hand.
>
> 25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous
> forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
>
> 26 He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.
>
> 27 Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
>
> 28 For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are
> preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
>
> 29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
>
> 30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of
> judgment.
>
> 31 The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
>
> 32 The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.
>
> 33 The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is
> judged.
>
> 34 Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit
> the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
>
> 35 I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a
> green bay tree.
>
> 36 Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he
> could not be found.
>
> 37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man
> is peace.
>
> 38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the
> wicked shall be cut off.
>
> 39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength
> in the time of trouble.
>
> 40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them
> from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
>
>
>
> Doug!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> To: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>; heirdoug at netscape.net
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; idahotom at hotmail.com
> Sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 12:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Justice for All
>
>
> Perhaps this is the overture to an imprecatory prayer sung in Doug's
> church. That would make it ok, then??
> SH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
> To: <heirdoug at netscape.net> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>;
> <idahotom at hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re:
> [Vision2020] And Justice for All
>> Doug --
>>
>> This is a deeply creepy, stalker-y threat. I just thought I'd point
> that > out.
>>
>> -- ACS On 6/8/07, heirdoug at netscape.net <heirdoug at netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> You can run on for a long time Run on for a long time Run on for a long
>>> time Sooner or later God'll cut you down Sooner or later God'll cut you
>>> down Go tell that long tongue liar Go and tell that midnight rider Tell
>>> the rambler, The gambler, The back biter Tell 'em that God's gonna cut
>>> 'em down Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down Well my goodness
>>> gracious let me tell you the news My head's been wet with the midnight
>>> dew I've been down on bended knee talkin' to the man from Galilee He
>>> spoke to me in the voice so sweet I thought I heard the shuffle of the
>>> angel's feet He called my name and my heart stood still When he said,
>>> "John go do My will!" Go tell that long tongue liar Go and tell that
>>> midnight rider Tell the rambler, The gambler, The back biter Tell 'em
>>> that God's gonna cut 'em down Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down You
>>> can run on for a long time Run on for a long time Run on for a long time
>>> Sooner or later God'll cut you down Sooner or later God'll cut you down
>>> Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand Workin' in the dark
>>> against your fellow man But as sure as God made black and white What's
>>> done in the dark will be brought to the light You can run on for a long
>>> time Run on for a long time Run on for a long time Sooner or later
>>> God'll cut you down Sooner or later God'll cut you down Go tell that
>>> long tongue liar Go and tell that midnight rider Tell the rambler, The
>>> gambler, The back biter Tell 'em that God's gonna cut you down Tell 'em
>>> that God's gonna cut you down Tell 'em that God's gonna cut you down I
>>> especially like that line: "What's done in the dark will be
> brought
>>> to the light"
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