[Vision2020] And Justice for All
heirdoug at netscape.net
heirdoug at netscape.net
Mon Jun 11 12:11:27 PDT 2007
No Sue,
I just was listening to it on my computer and thought I would share it
with the rest of you all. It speaks to me as much as I feel it speaks
to other areas on this listsrv.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
To: heirdoug at netscape.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Justice for All
I know, I thought it just might be the overture to an impecatory
payer--sort of a slow lead in.....
Sue
----- Original Message ----- From: <heirdoug at netscape.net>
To: <suehovey at moscow.com>; <ophite at gmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; <idahotom at hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Justice for All
> Sue,
>
> Thanks for writing back. The Song in question is not of an
imprecatory > nature, but more of a Johnathon Edwards' "sinners in the
hand of an angry > God" flavor. I would call it evangelistic in it's
tenor. For imprecatory > types of songs you really need to sing from
the Psalms.
>
> Jesus quoted from Psalm 69:4 in John 15:25.
>
> Here is the whole Psalm so you don't have to look it up:
> Psalm 69
>
> A Cry of Distress
> To the chief Musician upon Shoshan'nim, A Psalm of David.
>
> 1 Save me, O God; for the waters are come in unto my soul.
>
> 2 I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into
deep > waters, where the floods overflow me.
>
> 3 I am weary of my crying: my throat is dried: mine eyes fail while I
wait > for my God.
>
> 4 They that hate me without a cause are more than the hairs of mine
head: > they that would destroy me, being mine enemies wrongfully, are
mighty: > then I restored that which I took not away.
>
> 5 O God, thou knowest my foolishness; and my sins are not hid from
thee.
>
> 6 Let not them that wait on thee, O Lord GOD of hosts, be ashamed for
my > sake: let not those that seek thee be confounded for my sake, O
God of > Israel.
>
> 7 Because for thy sake I have borne reproach; shame hath covered my
face.
>
> 8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my
mother's > children.
>
> 9 For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of
them > that reproached thee are fallen upon me.
>
> 10 When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my >
reproach.
>
> 11 I made sackcloth also my garment; and I became a proverb to them.
>
> 12 They that sit in the gate speak against me; and I was the song of
the > drunkards.
>
> 13 But as for me, my prayer is unto thee, O LORD, in an acceptable
time:
> O God, in the multitude of thy mercy hear me, in the truth of thy >
salvation.
>
> 14 Deliver me out of the mire, and let me not sink: let me be
delivered > from them that hate me, and out of the deep waters.
>
> 15 Let not the waterflood overflow me, neither let the deep swallow
me up, > and let not the pit shut her mouth upon me.
>
> 16 Hear me, O LORD; for thy loving-kindness is good: turn unto me
> according to the multitude of thy tender mercies.
>
> 17 And hide not thy face from thy servant; for I am in trouble: hear
me > speedily.
>
> 18 Draw nigh unto my soul, and redeem it: deliver me because of mine
> enemies.
>
> 19 Thou hast known my reproach, and my shame, and my dishonor: mine >
adversaries are all before thee.
>
> 20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I
looked > for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters,
but I found > none.
>
> 21 They gave me also gall for my meat;and in my thirst they gave me >
vinegar to drink.
>
> 22 Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should
have > been for their welfare, let it become a trap.
>
> 23 Let their eyes be darkened, that they see not; and make their
loins > continually to shake.
>
> 24 Pour out thine indignation upon them, and let thy wrathful anger
take > hold of them.
>
> 25 Let their habitation be desolate; and let none dwell in their
tents. > Acts 1.20
>
> 26 For they persecute him whom thou hast smitten; and they talk to
the > grief of those whom thou hast wounded.
>
> 27 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy >
righteousness.
>
> 28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be
written > with the righteous.
>
> 29 But I am poor and sorrowful: let thy salvation, O God, set me up
on > high.
>
> 30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him
with > thanksgiving.
>
> 31 This also shall please the LORD better than an ox or bullock that
hath > horns and hoofs.
>
> 32 The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live
that > seek God.
>
> 33 For the LORD heareth the poor, and despiseth not his prisoners.
>
> 34 Let the heaven and earth praise him, the seas, and every thing
that > moveth therein.
>
> 35 For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that
they > may dwell there, and have it in possession.
>
> 36 The seed also of his servants shall inherit it: and they that love
his > name shall dwell therein.
>
>
>
> Another psalm that may sound like the Johnny Cash song in question
would > be Psalm 37
>
> Again here it is so that you won't have to look
>
> The Insecurity of the Wicked A Psalm of David.
>
> 1 Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious
against > the workers of iniquity.
>
> 2 For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the
green > herb.
>
> 3 Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land,
and > verily thou shalt be fed.
>
> 4 Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the
desires of > thine heart.
>
> 5 Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring
it > to pass.
>
> 6 And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy >
judgment as the noonday.
>
> 7 Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself
because > of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who
bringeth wicked > devices to pass.
>
> 8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise
to do > evil.
>
> 9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD,
they > shall inherit the earth.
>
> 10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou
shalt > diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
>
> 11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; Mt. 5.5 and shall delight >
themselves in the abundance of peace.
>
> 12 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with
his > teeth.
>
> 13 The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
>
> 14 The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to
cast > down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright
conversation.
>
> 15 Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall
be > broken.
>
> 16 A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of
many > wicked.
>
> 17 For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth
the > righteous.
>
> 18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance
shall > be for ever.
>
> 19 They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of
famine > they shall be satisfied.
>
> 20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be
as > the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they
consume away.
>
> 21 The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous
showeth > mercy, and giveth.
>
> 22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they
that be > cursed of him shall be cut off.
>
> 23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth
in > his way.
>
> 24 Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD >
upholdeth him with his hand.
>
> 25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the
righteous > forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.
>
> 26 He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.
>
> 27 Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.
>
> 28 For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they
are > preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.
>
> 29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
>
> 30 The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh
of > judgment.
>
> 31 The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.
>
> 32 The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.
>
> 33 The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he
is > judged.
>
> 34 Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to
inherit > the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.
>
> 35 I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like
a > green bay tree.
>
> 36 Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he
> could not be found.
>
> 37 Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that
man > is peace.
>
> 38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the
> wicked shall be cut off.
>
> 39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their
strength > in the time of trouble.
>
> 40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver
them > from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
>
>
>
> Doug!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com>
> To: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>; heirdoug at netscape.net
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; idahotom at hotmail.com
> Sent: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 12:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And Justice for All
>
>
> Perhaps this is the overture to an imprecatory prayer sung in Doug's
> church. That would make it ok, then??
> SH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Schou"
<ophite at gmail.com> > To: <heirdoug at netscape.net> Cc:
<vision2020 at moscow.com>; > <idahotom at hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, June
08, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: > [Vision2020] And Justice for All
>> Doug -- >>
>> This is a deeply creepy, stalker-y threat. I just thought I'd point
> that > out.
>>
>> -- ACS On 6/8/07, heirdoug at netscape.net <heirdoug at netscape.net>
wrote:
>>>
>>> You can run on for a long time Run on for a long time Run on for a
long >>> time Sooner or later God'll cut you down Sooner or later
God'll cut you >>> down Go tell that long tongue liar Go and tell that
midnight rider Tell >>> the rambler, The gambler, The back biter Tell
'em that God's gonna cut >>> 'em down Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em
down Well my goodness >>> gracious let me tell you the news My head's
been wet with the midnight >>> dew I've been down on bended knee
talkin' to the man from Galilee He >>> spoke to me in the voice so
sweet I thought I heard the shuffle of the >>> angel's feet He called
my name and my heart stood still When he said, >>> "John go do My
will!" Go tell that long tongue liar Go and tell that >>> midnight
rider Tell the rambler, The gambler, The back biter Tell 'em >>> that
God's gonna cut 'em down Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down You >>>
can run on for a long time Run on for a long time Run on for a long
time >>> Sooner or later God'll cut you down Sooner or later God'll cut
you down >>> Well you may throw your rock and hide your hand Workin' in
the dark >>> against your fellow man But as sure as God made black and
white What's >>> done in the dark will be brought to the light You can
run on for a long >>> time Run on for a long time Run on for a long
time Sooner or later >>> God'll cut you down Sooner or later God'll cut
you down Go tell that >>> long tongue liar Go and tell that midnight
rider Tell the rambler, The >>> gambler, The back biter Tell 'em that
God's gonna cut you down Tell 'em >>> that God's gonna cut you down
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut you down I >>> especially like that line:
"What's done in the dark will be
> brought
>>> to the light"
>
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