[Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!

[Donovan Arnold]

Ted,
  
Having some doubt and blindly following are not the same thing. I have doubt, of course I do. But I follow based on the evidence presented to me as well. That is the bases of my faith. 
   
  I don't think, at least in most cases, that a person who truly loved God and followed Christ would be all evil and commit wrong actions. I would believe that they would stop themselves at some point. If they couldn't, it wouldn't be there fault. 
   
  I don't know if I do what I do for a living because God made me this way, or because I believe in God, but either way I know it is because of God. 
   
  I only believe in God because of the evidence presented to me. 
   
  Best,
   
  Donovan 
   
   
  
Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
     
  Donovan wrote:
       
  One can believe in a God  and worship without blindly following religious doctrine.
   
  So are you saying that you have any doubt that whatever form of "God" you believe in, and I am assuming that you believe in some form of a monotheistic God that is the only God over all creation, actually exists as you believe they do?  If you have any doubts that you have the ultimate truth regarding this issue, then to some extent you are an agnostic!  If you have no doubt whatsoever that your form of religious belief about "God" is the absolute truth, than my comment stands: you believe "blindly," because I do not think the evidence when rationally examined can lead to absolute certainty about what form the superior being or beings in our universe assumes, nor what this "God" or "Gods," if they exist, will most favor in terms of human belief systems. 
   
  Could it not be the case that "God" deliberately placed us in a position where he/she knew that the evidence for his/her existence was so weak, that given the most honest approach to the evidence, and the best application of human reason, that agnosticism was the most honest response, the most rational application of our God given intelligence?  And that being able to admit this doubt, while still living a kind and compassionate life, is the real test before us, not the surrender to absolute belief in supernatural beings that some religions insist is the only path to salvation? 
   
  I am reminded of a prominent member of the Moscow community who insisted that the path to salvation is not good works, but giving your heart and life to Jesus Christ.  This sort of approach to spirituality and Ethics I find particularly troubling, given that it implies that a life of kindness and compassion from an agnostic will result in damnation, while a life of brutality and cruelty will still be rewarded with salvation if the offender gives their heart and life to Jesus at life's end. 
   
  Is this approach what a kind and compassionate God would establish for human salvation?
  This approach to salvation and Ethics appears to be a system established by human beings to comfort and excuse those engaging in the worst behavior.  A religion, perhaps, for warriors who after the sadism of the battle, wish to believe they will find forgiveness and salvation despite the horror of their actions. 
   
  And Carl, the Parmesan faction rules!  If you doubt this absolute truth, you will not find salvation, no matter how nice a guy you are, how many times you bring humor into our lives!
   
  Ted Moffett
   
   
  

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