[Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!
deb
debismith at moscow.com
Mon Jun 4 20:55:22 PDT 2007
I'm liking this church, Carl! And it certainly doesn't refute my Pagan
belief system----of course, we Pagans just co-opt whatever works, and this
works....
Debi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Westberg" <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!
> ".....which is more rational?" The Church of the Flying Spaghetti
> Monster,
> of course. You can learn more.....http://www.venganza.org/ Carl
> Westberg Jr.
>
>
>>From: "Kai Eiselein, editor" <editor at lataheagle.com>
>>To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>, "Donovan Arnold"
>><donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!
>>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:29:01 -0700
>>
>>Christians: In the beginning, there was nothing, then God created the
>>heavens and the Earth.
>>(Some) Native Americans: Raven created the Earth.
>> >From China: Long, long ago, when heaven and earth were still one, the
>>entire universe was contained in an egg-shaped cloud. All the matter of
>>the
>>universe swirled chaotically in that egg. Deep within the swirling matter
>>was Pan Gu, a huge giant who grew in the chaos. For 18,000 years he
>>developed and slept in the egg. Finally one day he awoke and stretched,
>>and
>>the egg broke to release the matter of the universe. The lighter purer
>>elements drifted upwards to make the sky and heavens, and the heavier
>>impure elements settled downwards to make the earth.
>>Mossi (Africa): In the beginning there was no earth, no day or night,
>>and
>>not even time itself. All that existed was the Kingdom of Everlasting
>>Truth, which was ruled by the Naba Zid-Wendé. The Naba Zid-Wendé made the
>>earth, and then they made the day and the night.
>> >From India: In the beginning there was absolutely nothing, and what
>>existed was covered by death and hunger. He thought, "Let me have a self",
>>and he created the mind. As he moved about in worship, water was
>>generated.
>>Froth formed on the water, and the froth eventually solidifed to become
>>earth. He rested on the earth, and from his luminence came fire. After
>>resting, he divided himself in three parts, and one is fire, one is the
>>sun, and one is the air.
>>Science: There was nothing.... and then it exploded.
>>Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, which is more rational?
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ted Moffett
>> To: Donovan Arnold
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; Carl Westberg
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!
>>
>>
>>
>> Donovan et. al.
>>
>> I have heard your argument numerous times from various sources. It is
>>specious.
>>
>> Assuming we do not know for certain what God, the Goddess, Gods or
>>Goddesses, or various other possible forms of supreme beings or powers,
>>will regard as the correct way of thinking, it remains possible that being
>>agnostic will be regarded by the supreme being, beings or powers in our
>>universe, as the most laudable and rational response to the evidence based
>>on reason. Therefore agnostics may turn out to be the chosen people, and
>>the so called "faithful" will be viewed in a less than favorable light for
>>their blind allegiance to dogmatic doctrines that are not supported
>>sufficiently by evidence or reason.
>>
>> Ted Moffett
>>
>>
>> On 5/31/07, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Carl,
>>
>> It is illogical to be agnostic. If you die, which you will, and there
>>is in fact a God, you best have worshiped him. On the other, if there is
>>no
>>God, it won't count against you.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>>
>> keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>> And, as one of your Christian friends, I love you for that, Carl.
>>
>> No, wait -- I hate you. I think.
>>
>> AAARRRRGGGHHHH! It's so confusing -- who to hate, who to love, who
>>to pray against, who to call "brother" or "sister," who to make fun of.
>>If only there were a guide . . .
>>
>> keely
>>
>> > From: carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com
>> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> > Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 17:13:26 -0700
>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of
>> peace!
>> >
>> > The repeated attempts by certain Christian folk to convince me
>>that by the
>> > mere fact of being Muslim, one is evil, makes me all the more
>>convinced that
>> > to remain an agnostic who has Muslims and Christians in his
>> circle
>>of
>> > friends is the right choice. Carl Westberg Jr.
>> >
>> >
>>
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