[Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves

Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 31 22:45:36 PST 2007 

Mark,

I agree, it would be a bad way to make public policy. However, the fact that 
a fishing license costs around $20, a elk tag costs around $30, a  deer tag 
around 20,etc etc,a Moose tag being a once in a lifetime tag, makes me 
believe that this small fee for a wolf(pop 500-1200) will not go threw.

No need to jump to conclusions, YET.

Believe me if it did, I'm on your side.

Matt

>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, sunilramalingam at hotmail.com,     
>    vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:39:15 -0800
>
>Never underestimate the 10th amendment state's rights argument, especially 
>when the former governor is now the fed making the decision. The only 
>reason it may not fly is that other branch of government: the courts. Bad 
>way to make public policy.
>
>m.
>
>At 10:34 PM -0800 1/31/07, Matt Decker wrote:
>>Mark,
>>
>>I think you and both know that this wont fly.......
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>>>To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, sunilramalingam at hotmail.com,   
>>>    vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:18:52 -0800
>>>
>>>Matt,
>>>
>>>Fish and Game's setting of the wolf tag at $26.50 says more about the 
>>>"management" intentions than anything Butch said. That's the same price 
>>>as other predator tags (black bear, cougar). No limit amount on # of tags 
>>>in the proposal. My read: treat wolves as nuisance varmints and hope that 
>>>maybe enough wolves will be killed in an essentially unmanaged hunt to 
>>>take out the population. Then say oops, we really did mean to keep ten 
>>>breeding packs as we said we would but we never expected such a hunting 
>>>success rate. wink wink.
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>At 7:14 PM -0800 1/31/07, Matt Decker wrote:
>>>>Sunil,
>>>>
>>>>Who has said "they want the extermination of wolves"? As far as I know 
>>>>Mr. Otter is talking about a hunting permit, and I would assume one that 
>>>>is like the Moose tag in Idaho, once in a lifetime. Even if it is not a 
>>>>lifetime tag Im sure that the F&G will not allow too many tags to be 
>>>>filled. I doubt that hunting wolves can be compaired to hunting coyotes. 
>>>>Thats my take on it at least.
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:30:19 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>>I think you're jumping to conclusions.  I think it's appropriate to
>>>>>compensate those who lose stock to predation, but I also oppose the
>>>>>extermination of predators and support the reintroduction of wolves.  
>>>>>That
>>>>>doesn't mean I am not concerned about those who raise livestock.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sunil
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>>>Reply-To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>,
>>>>>>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:03:13 -0800
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know that they have said that directly, but the loss of 
>>>>>>livestock
>>>>>>to wolves does not seem to be of a concern or is minimized.  That is 
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>same thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Roger
>>>>>>-----Original message-----
>>>>>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:37:08 -0800
>>>>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  > Roger,
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > How many people have said here they don't care about the 
>>>>>>livelihood of
>>>>>>  > livestock producers?
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > Sunil
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>  > >From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>>>  > >Reply-To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>>>  > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>>  > >Subject: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>>>  > >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:01:20 -0800
>>>>>>  > >
>>>>>>  > >Will
>>>>>>  > >  I am mostly in agreement with your statements on a balance in 
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>  > >ecosystem. however I do not think that killing off old cow elk 
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>anything
>>>>>>  > >to do with the productive of young ones. One thing that is 
>>>>>>missing is
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>  > >disregard of the effects on livestock. I understand that you 
>>>>>>folks do
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>  > >care about the lively hood of livestock producers, which is why 
>>>>>>you do
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>  > >take this into consideration or downgrade it. I do not have a 
>>>>>>problem
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>  > >maintaining some wolves, but they need to be controlled. They are 
>>>>>>much
>>>>>>more
>>>>>>  > >dangerous than coyotes. I am a believer in multiple use. This 
>>>>>>includes
>>>>>>  > >everyone, including livestock producers. I am a supporter of The 
>>>>>>Nature
>>>>>>  > >conservancy. I used to be a member of the Audubon Society, but 
>>>>>>their
>>>>>>views
>>>>>>  > >have became too one side. The Sierra Club has always ben too 
>>>>>>radical
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>  > >me. As an aside, I was raised in the middle of what is called the
>>>>>>Owyhee
>>>>>>  > >Initiative. Our place was about 50 miles from Jordan Valley, 
>>>>>>Oregon and
>>>>>>80
>>>>>>  > >miles from Bruneau, Idaho. I supp!
>>>>>>  > >  ort the
>>>>>>  > >Owyhee Imitative as do most of my former neighbors that still 
>>>>>>live
>>>>>>there.
>>>>>>  > >
>>>>>>  > >Roger
>>>>>>  > >
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