[Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves

Wed Jan 31 22:39:15 PST 2007

Never underestimate the 10th amendment state's 
rights argument, especially when the former 
governor is now the fed making the decision. The 
only reason it may not fly is that other branch 
of government: the courts. Bad way to make public 
policy.

m.

At 10:34 PM -0800 1/31/07, Matt Decker wrote:
>Mark,
>
>I think you and both know that this wont fly.......
>
>Matt
>
>>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>>To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, sunilramalingam at hotmail.com,    
>>    vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:18:52 -0800
>>
>>Matt,
>>
>>Fish and Game's setting of the wolf tag at 
>>$26.50 says more about the "management" 
>>intentions than anything Butch said. That's the 
>>same price as other predator tags (black bear, 
>>cougar). No limit amount on # of tags in the 
>>proposal. My read: treat wolves as nuisance 
>>varmints and hope that maybe enough wolves will 
>>be killed in an essentially unmanaged hunt to 
>>take out the population. Then say oops, we 
>>really did mean to keep ten breeding packs as 
>>we said we would but we never expected such a 
>>hunting success rate. wink wink.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>At 7:14 PM -0800 1/31/07, Matt Decker wrote:
>>>Sunil,
>>>
>>>Who has said "they want the extermination of 
>>>wolves"? As far as I know Mr. Otter is talking 
>>>about a hunting permit, and I would assume one 
>>>that is like the Moose tag in Idaho, once in a 
>>>lifetime. Even if it is not a lifetime tag Im 
>>>sure that the F&G will not allow too many tags 
>>>to be filled. I doubt that hunting wolves can 
>>>be compaired to hunting coyotes. Thats my take 
>>>on it at least.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>>
>>>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:30:19 -0800
>>>>
>>>>I think you're jumping to conclusions.  I think it's appropriate to
>>>>compensate those who lose stock to predation, but I also oppose the
>>>>extermination of predators and support the reintroduction of wolves.  That
>>>>doesn't mean I am not concerned about those who raise livestock.
>>>>
>>>>Sunil
>>>>
>>>>>From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>>Reply-To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>,
>>>>>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:03:13 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know that they have said that directly, but the loss of livestock
>>>>>to wolves does not seem to be of a concern or is minimized.  That is the
>>>>>same thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Roger
>>>>>-----Original message-----
>>>>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:37:08 -0800
>>>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>>
>>>>>  > Roger,
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > How many people have said here they don't care about the livelihood of
>>>>>  > livestock producers?
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > Sunil
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  > >From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>>  > >Reply-To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>>  > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>  > >Subject: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>>  > >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:01:20 -0800
>>>>>  > >
>>>>>  > >Will
>>>>>  > >  I am mostly in agreement with your statements on a balance in the
>>>>>  > >ecosystem. however I do not think that killing off old cow elk has
>>>>>anything
>>>>>  > >to do with the productive of young ones. One thing that is missing is
>>>>>the
>>>>>  > >disregard of the effects on livestock. I understand that you folks do
>>>>>not
>>>>>  > >care about the lively hood of livestock producers, which is why you do
>>>>>not
>>>>>  > >take this into consideration or downgrade it. I do not have a problem
>>>>>with
>>>>>  > >maintaining some wolves, but they need to be controlled. They are much
>>>>>more
>>>>>  > >dangerous than coyotes. I am a believer in multiple use. This includes
>>>>>  > >everyone, including livestock producers. 
>>>>>I am a supporter of The Nature
>>>>>  > >conservancy. I used to be a member of the Audubon Society, but their
>>>>>views
>>>>>  > >have became too one side. The Sierra Club has always ben too radical
>>>>>for
>>>>>  > >me. As an aside, I was raised in the middle of what is called the
>>>>>Owyhee
>>>>>  > >Initiative. Our place was about 50 miles 
>>>>>from Jordan Valley, Oregon and
>>>>>80
>>>>>  > >miles from Bruneau, Idaho. I supp!
>>>>>  > >  ort the
>>>>>  > >Owyhee Imitative as do most of my former neighbors that still live
>>>>>there.
>>>>>  > >
>>>>>  > >Roger
>>>>>  > >
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