[Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves

Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 31 22:34:41 PST 2007


Mark,

I think you and both know that this wont fly.......

Matt


>From: Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com>
>To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>, sunilramalingam at hotmail.com,     
>    vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:18:52 -0800
>
>Matt,
>
>Fish and Game's setting of the wolf tag at $26.50 says more about the 
>"management" intentions than anything Butch said. That's the same price as 
>other predator tags (black bear, cougar). No limit amount on # of tags in 
>the proposal. My read: treat wolves as nuisance varmints and hope that 
>maybe enough wolves will be killed in an essentially unmanaged hunt to take 
>out the population. Then say oops, we really did mean to keep ten breeding 
>packs as we said we would but we never expected such a hunting success 
>rate. wink wink.
>
>Mark
>
>At 7:14 PM -0800 1/31/07, Matt Decker wrote:
>>Sunil,
>>
>>Who has said "they want the extermination of wolves"? As far as I know Mr. 
>>Otter is talking about a hunting permit, and I would assume one that is 
>>like the Moose tag in Idaho, once in a lifetime. Even if it is not a 
>>lifetime tag Im sure that the F&G will not allow too many tags to be 
>>filled. I doubt that hunting wolves can be compaired to hunting coyotes. 
>>Thats my take on it at least.
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:30:19 -0800
>>>
>>>I think you're jumping to conclusions.  I think it's appropriate to
>>>compensate those who lose stock to predation, but I also oppose the
>>>extermination of predators and support the reintroduction of wolves.  
>>>That
>>>doesn't mean I am not concerned about those who raise livestock.
>>>
>>>Sunil
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>Reply-To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>To: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>,
>>>>vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:03:13 -0800
>>>>
>>>>I don't know that they have said that directly, but the loss of 
>>>>livestock
>>>>to wolves does not seem to be of a concern or is minimized.  That is the
>>>>same thing.
>>>>
>>>>Roger
>>>>-----Original message-----
>>>>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
>>>>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:37:08 -0800
>>>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>
>>>>  > Roger,
>>>>  >
>>>>  > How many people have said here they don't care about the livelihood 
>>>>of
>>>>  > livestock producers?
>>>>  >
>>>>  > Sunil
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  > >From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>  > >Reply-To: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>>>>  > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>  > >Subject: [Vision2020] Mixed news for Wolves
>>>>  > >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:01:20 -0800
>>>>  > >
>>>>  > >Will
>>>>  > >  I am mostly in agreement with your statements on a balance in the
>>>>  > >ecosystem. however I do not think that killing off old cow elk has
>>>>anything
>>>>  > >to do with the productive of young ones. One thing that is missing 
>>>>is
>>>>the
>>>>  > >disregard of the effects on livestock. I understand that you folks 
>>>>do
>>>>not
>>>>  > >care about the lively hood of livestock producers, which is why you 
>>>>do
>>>>not
>>>>  > >take this into consideration or downgrade it. I do not have a 
>>>>problem
>>>>with
>>>>  > >maintaining some wolves, but they need to be controlled. They are 
>>>>much
>>>>more
>>>>  > >dangerous than coyotes. I am a believer in multiple use. This 
>>>>includes
>>>>  > >everyone, including livestock producers. I am a supporter of The 
>>>>Nature
>>>>  > >conservancy. I used to be a member of the Audubon Society, but 
>>>>their
>>>>views
>>>>  > >have became too one side. The Sierra Club has always ben too 
>>>>radical
>>>>for
>>>>  > >me. As an aside, I was raised in the middle of what is called the
>>>>Owyhee
>>>>  > >Initiative. Our place was about 50 miles from Jordan Valley, Oregon 
>>>>and
>>>>80
>>>>  > >miles from Bruneau, Idaho. I supp!
>>>>  > >  ort the
>>>>  > >Owyhee Imitative as do most of my former neighbors that still live
>>>>there.
>>>>  > >
>>>>  > >Roger
>>>>  > >
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