[Vision2020] Them Godless Liberals

[J Ford]

What are you, the "do it my Vision way?" moderator?



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>From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
>To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Them Godless Liberals
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:23:12 -0800
>
>i understand this has been addressed already by some but I wanted you Paul
>to know that if you do not put your response first on you post I think you
>forgot to do it. When you reverse them it is just plain wrong. I suspect 
>you
>do not care but I do not read you posts...just wanted you to know...and
>anyone else who does this.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:23 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Them Godless Liberals
>
>
>heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:
>
> ># One thing that we need is a concept of covenantal/federal/corporate
> >responsibility
> >
> >Newt's comments are very good as far as they go, but he is still not
> >getting to the real core of the matter. Islamic terrorists are not
> >trying to attack the West outside of and apart from God's sovereignty.
> >God is allowing this to happen, and He is allowing it to happen for a
> >reason. We need to ask ourselves, "Why is God allowing Islamic
> >terrorists to launch attacks against the West NOW? What is the message
> >the God is trying to tell us through all this?" And the message is that
> >He wants us all to turn away from our sins and to turn unto Him. The
> >pack of decadent, godless, liberal (libertine) socialist
> >revolutionaries that the West has been gradually morphing into was
> >becoming what it was becoming in a process of TURNING AWAY FROM GOD.
> >Did we really think that God wasn't there? Did we really think that God
> >doesn't CARE? He is there, and He does care, and thus he has allowed
> >Islamic terrorists to come into our midst. When the West becomes truly
> >Christian once again, God will show us the way out of the mess that we
> >are in, and He will lead us to victory and peace. But if anyone thinks
> >that we can deal effectively with the problem of Islamic terrorism --
> >which is really a symptom rather than the real underlying problem
> >itself -- without addressing the more fundamental problem of how we as
> >individuals and as a society are to relate to the Christian God, that
> >person is not in a position to find a genuine solution. This much is
> >clear: there is no point in making the world safe for moral degeneracy
> >and godlessness. If that's the sort of "freedom" that West stands for,
> >it's not worth defending.
> >
> >Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:39 AM by cdwitmer
> >
> >
>
>It's funny that the scenario of God getting miffed about the Wests
>decadent, godless, libertine ways and stepping back to allow Islamic
>terrorists to blow the crap out of us is not substantially different
>from how those same terrorists would describe the situation.  Except
>that it's Allah, and you get virgins as a reward.
>
>Were the Twin Towers a bastion of godlessness?  Were they a libertine's
>haven?  I thought they were office blocks for the most part with
>international offices from all sorts of countries, East as well as
>West.  Oh yeah, and some restraunts.  If God really wanted to show that
>he CARED, maybe he could have picked a better target?  Excuse me, could
>have allowed the Islamic terrorists to pick a better target?
>
>Extreme fundamentalist Christianity and extreme fundamentalist Islam
>apparently have more in common than I had first suspected.
>
>If any of you that believe this sort of thing could please ask your God
>to stop CARING so much, that would be great.  Then we could go back to
>our downward spiral of videogame-playing and having (gasp!) sex in peace
>without the fears of being blown up at our offices.  Thank you.
>
>Paul
>
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