[Vision2020] Compassion for All Life
Sunil Ramalingam
sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Sun Jan 28 14:56:01 PST 2007
Since Tony objects neither to the execution of the wrongly convicted nor the
deaths of innocent victims of our wars abroad, he isn't a supporter of
innocent life either.
Sunil
>From: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
>To: Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for All Life
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:51:05 -0800 (PST)
>
>Tony,
>
>Not flat Tony. Right on target. Your answer is "No, the government should
>not be allowed to
> strap me to a gurney against my will and take half of my liver to save
>me
> in the name of "compassion for all life". Funny how things change when
>it's your body in the mix.
>
>-Scott
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:42:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for All Life
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>Hey Scott, how's it hanging? Say, in your
>hypothetical scenario, are there perhaps thousands of individuals and
>couples
>waiting in the wings to donate a liver to you should I refuse? Oh my, how
>inconvenient when our metaphor falls flat. In the case of abortion, of
>course, there are literally thousands of folks waiting around the block to
>adopt
>the little human being in question, so the bio mother's decision to not be
>involved in it's raising would not condemn it to death.
>
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>Really Scott, no bobbing and weaving is required to
>defend the right to life of innocent babies, just a modicum of sensitivity
>and
>vision.
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>Best, -T
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From:
> Scott Dredge
>
>
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:03
> PM
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for
> All Life
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> Tony,
>
>You
> can oppose abortion all you want. The fact is that whether or not
> abortion remains legalized or whether it is completely banned will not
> directily impact you. You personally gain no rights nor lose any rights
> as abortion restrictions ebb and flow.
>
>But would your position on
> "compassion for all life" change at all if you were affected? For
> instance, let's say that I need half of your liver to survive because
>for
> [insert any reason] my own liver is failing. Let's say that an
>operation
> to split your liver carries no more risk of death to you than that of a
>woman
> in child birth. Let's also say that the recovery time from this
> operation is no more burdensome than what women typically go through
>from late
> term pregnancies through child birth. Your liver will regenerate back
>to
> full size 6 months after the operation. The question then I have for
>you
> is this: should you be allowed to make the choice of whether or not to
>donate
> half of your liver to save my life or should the government be allowed
>to
> strap you to a gurney against your will and take half of your liver to
>save me
> in the name of "compassion for all life"?
>
>Looking forward to your
> bobbing and weaving response - if you have any response at
> all.
>
>-Scott
>
>
> -----
> Original Message ----
>From: Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To: Nick
> Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Friday,
> January 26, 2007 5:42:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for All
> Life
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> Nick, your revered logic would dictate to me that
> the ONLY species out of how many millions on this planet that is capable
>of
> sending space probes beyond the solar system, composing great works of
> literature or carving David from solid marble, is reasonably viewed as
> superior to the other lesser endowed species. Is our existence no more
> remarkable than a muskrat when we can compose poetry or construct the
>Twin
> Towers?
>
>
>
> Yes, human being is a biological category, but
> one of extraordinary uniqueness, endowed over and above the others in a
>myriad
> of ways. They are also, according to our Declaration, deserving of and
> endowed with, certain unalienable rights, one of which is the right to
> life. And therein your dilemma. You can cling tenaciously to an
> irrelevancy, are they persons or non persons, but you cannot deny their
> humanity. It seems Nick, that you pick and choose which written
> declarations you will adhere to. I suppose we all must. Is the
> Supreme Court the entity I most trust in deciding these matters, or do I
>rely
> on the wisdom of those who drafted the Declaration of Independence and
>our
> Constitution? Guess I'll stick with the latter. You apparently
> prefer the former, as is your right. I will continue to oppose the
> premeditated killing of innocent human beings, but I am willing to agree
>to
> disagree with you if you choose a different path.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> -Tony
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